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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6645 on: November 04, 2014, 10:17:13 am »
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When integrating a curve in the 3rd quadrant, under the x axis, how do I set up my definite integral? If its from x= -2 to -1, which value goes on top? Is -1 on top and -2 on the bottom correct? And do I need a negative sign outside the whole definite integral because its below the x axis?


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Yes, the 'higher number' (sorry for the bad wording) goes on the upper terminal
Yeah, If you are finding the area under the x-axis then you put a negative around the integral

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6646 on: November 04, 2014, 10:17:33 am »
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When integrating a curve in the 3rd quadrant, under the x axis, how do I set up my definite integral? If its from x= -2 to -1, which value goes on top? Is -1 on top and -2 on the bottom correct? And do I need a negative sign outside the whole definite integral because its below the x axis?


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Pretty sure you either reverse the limits or make the integral negative, not both. So either the integral from -1 to -2, or the negative integral of -2 to -1. Both give the same answer. :)
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6647 on: November 04, 2014, 10:28:55 am »
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What's a quick way to learn approximation ?
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6648 on: November 04, 2014, 10:34:35 am »
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What's a quick way to learn approximation ?

It's on the formula sheet, so no need to memorise.
Maybe just watch a video on it: this seems quite good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWFAogYI5Ls
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« Reply #6649 on: November 04, 2014, 10:35:26 am »
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It's on the formula sheet, so no need to memorise.
Maybe just watch a video on it: this seems quite good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWFAogYI5Ls
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6650 on: November 04, 2014, 10:39:09 am »
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Could someone please explain to me VCAA exam 2 2013, the one about dilations (X'P'= 10 and X'C"=30)?
Why do they minus the coordinates?

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6651 on: November 04, 2014, 11:06:05 am »
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in tech free, when we find the derivative of a function, should we factorise it?
I was always told to, but vcaa assessment report doesn't do it.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6652 on: November 04, 2014, 11:11:28 am »
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in tech free, when we find the derivative of a function, should we factorise it?
I was always told to, but vcaa assessment report doesn't do it.
Not sure how they take factorising of derivatives but I know for substitution (so Question 2 of Exam 1), they would like it to be fully factorised... take VCAA 2009, Question 2 for example :)

^But yeah for me I've always been factorising them out anyway and I'll be continuing to do it for tomorrow's exam anyway LOL

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6653 on: November 04, 2014, 11:24:59 am »
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hey guys how would i anti diff (3-4x)^-5

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6654 on: November 04, 2014, 11:28:04 am »
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hey guys how would i anti diff (3-4x)^-5
Chain rule
let u=2-4x
du/dx= -4
y=u^-5
dy/du= -5u^-6
dy/dx=dy/du*du/dx
=20(2-4x)^-6

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6655 on: November 04, 2014, 11:32:37 am »
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Could someone explain how these two are equal? Thanks.
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6656 on: November 04, 2014, 11:34:13 am »
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hey guys how would i anti diff (3-4x)^-5
I do it a bit differently but let's see if you can see where I'm coming from!

So you know when you anti-diff it, the power will go up (so it'll be to the power of '-4').

Now you need to somehow find the number that will be put in front of (3-4x)^-4 (since the inside will stay the same).. what I do is I differentiate it but I write out what I know and chuck in a variable and solve for it.

So you know when you differentiate y.(3-4x)^-4, it'll give you (3-4x)^-5 (so you'll be solving for 'y' in this case)!

Basically when you differentiate that, you know that it'll be -4 x -4 x y = 1
Solving that will give you y=1/16 which is the number you put in front of your overall answer so in the end your answer will be:



I know it's not conventional but hopefully you see where I'm coming from!

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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6657 on: November 04, 2014, 11:34:38 am »
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Chain rule
let u=2-4x
du/dx= -4
y=u^-5
dy/du= -5u^-6
dy/dx=dy/du*du/dx
=20(2-4x)^-6
that's not anti diff

hey guys how would i anti diff (3-4x)^-5
raise the power (3-4x)^-4
multiply by 1 over derivative of inside and new power

final answer is 1/16 times (3-4x)^-4
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Re: VCE Methods Question Thread!
« Reply #6659 on: November 04, 2014, 11:37:08 am »
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Not sure how they take factorising of derivatives but I know for substitution (so Question 2 of Exam 1), they would like it to be fully factorised... take VCAA 2009, Question 2 for example :)

^But yeah for me I've always been factorising them out anyway and I'll be continuing to do it for tomorrow's exam anyway LOL
haha thanks, i'm gonna stick with factorising too! :p
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