The ATAR and Results Build Up Thread [v2]

[Jdog]

alright that's good, we can have a more accurate prediction of what we will get if we know the aggregate tables.

Personally i think it will be really tough to do well at the top end this year.

[luken93]

I don't know if there's a specific date, but if you get the right URL it's simply acmatter of changing the year...but I can't seem to find a vtac link that has the year included in the URL...

If someone can find a link from a particular year just change ENTER to ATAR and then change the year...if the link doesn't exist it isn't up yet, but just keep refreshing every so often

[Planck's constant]

yep, spesh +11, lang still +5 extra, last year of 5.5 aggregate, it's going to be tough

Even though I will very likely benefit from the current system, I will never be convinced that a (Spesh 50/English 40) student is better than a (Spesh 40/English 50) student

[taiga]

yep, spesh +11, lang still +5 extra, last year of 5.5 aggregate, it's going to be tough

Even though I will very likely benefit from the current system, I will never be convinced that a (Spesh 50/English 40) student is better than a (Spesh 40/English 50) student

But they're not, the second one will receive a higher aggregate.

[thushan]

That's his point taiga. He means that 50 eng 40 spesh should get a higher aggregate.

[Planck's constant]

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That's his point taiga. He means that 50 eng 40 spesh should get a higher aggregate.

You seem to have got my drift, even though, on second thoughts, my previous post was a bit confusing.
To clarify, based on last years stats, a 45 in spesh scales up to 50, whereas an English 50 stays at 50.

I happen to believe that a 45 in Spesh is mediocre compared to a 50 in English, and yet they are rewarded equally.

You need a serious brain to get 50 in English

[REBORN]

and VTAC says "you need a serious brain to get a 45 in Spesh"...

which they class as = 50 in English.

[Planck's constant]

and VTAC says "you need a serious brain to get a 45 in Spesh"...

which they class as = 50 in English.

I know what VTAC say, and the rules suit me.
But I respect an English 50 a hell of a lot more than a Spesh 45

[REBORN]

Well that's fine, it's your personal opinion

[funkyducky]

That's his point taiga. He means that 50 eng 40 spesh should get a higher aggregate.

but it DOES get a higher aggregate. 50 eng ---> 50, 40 spesh ---> 47, 50+47 = 97 (+7 scaling)
50 spesh ---> 52, 40 eng ---> 39, 52+39=91 (+1 scaling)

Hence, 50eng40spesh is in fact better than 50spesh40eng. QED.

[Jdog]

That's his point taiga. He means that 50 eng 40 spesh should get a higher aggregate.

but it DOES get a higher aggregate. 50 eng ---> 50, 40 spesh ---> 47, 50+47 = 97 (+7 scaling)
50 spesh ---> 52, 40 eng ---> 39, 52+39=91 (+1 scaling)

Hence, 50eng40spesh is in fact better than 50spesh40eng. QED.

under the new scaling, that will likely change??

[paulsterio]

I agree, it is a lot easier to get a 45 in spesh

[Planck's constant]

Well that's fine, it's your personal opinion

Whether people will admit this or not, deep down everyone knows that a 50 in English is a much greater achievement than a 45 in Spesh.

45 Spesh is not exactly Premier League standard, is it ? . Middle of second division I reckon

[thushan]

Cheers mate, coz I'm probs going to get around that

[funkyducky]

That's his point taiga. He means that 50 eng 40 spesh should get a higher aggregate.

but it DOES get a higher aggregate. 50 eng ---> 50, 40 spesh ---> 47, 50+47 = 97 (+7 scaling)
50 spesh ---> 52, 40 eng ---> 39, 52+39=91 (+1 scaling)

Hence, 50eng40spesh is in fact better than 50spesh40eng. QED.

under the new scaling, that will likely change??

The change will be bigger at 40 than at 50 if there is any difference at all (eg.40--->48/49, 50--->52/53), so overall, same conclusion.