Rod's Health 3/4 Question Thread

[Rod]

Hey guys just have a few questions here,

1) Alright, so we obviously know the limitations of the WHO health definition, what is an advantage? I was thinking of that it goes through the three dimensions of health that all contribute to optimum health, which may be an advantage??

2) When looking at morbidity rates, why is it important that we consider both incidence and prevalence rates? Had no idea how to explain this..

[Smiley_]

1. Advantages include
  it was the first time that health had been considered as being more than physical health
  it made the definition of health become more inclusive and achievable

Was this a specific question?

2. Incidence gives an indication of how many new cases were reported in a given period. Without incidence data, it is impossible to identify trends in the condition. For example, consider a condition like hepatitis C (which has no cure and will be present in a person forever). The prevalence rates alone for hepatitis C would not show current trends with regard to infection. A strategy could be put in place to target hepatitis C and could prevent all new infections; however, without incidence data, the number of new infections would not be known and, therefore, would be unlikely to be targeted.

[Rod]

1. Advantages include
  it was the first time that health had been considered as being more than physical health
  it made the definition of health become more inclusive and achievable

Was this a specific question?

2. Incidence gives an indication of how many new cases were reported in a given period. Without incidence data, it is impossible to identify trends in the condition. For example, consider a condition like hepatitis C (which has no cure and will be present in a person forever). The prevalence rates alone for hepatitis C would not show current trends with regard to infection. A strategy could be put in place to target hepatitis C and could prevent all new infections; however, without incidence data
, the number of new infections would not be known and, therefore, would be unlikely to be targeted.


I see ! Thank you heaps . And no that was not a specific question, just something I was thinking about! But the second was actually a question.

[Only Cheating Yourself]

Hey guys just have a few questions here,

1) Alright, so we obviously know the limitations of the WHO health definition, what is an advantage? I was thinking of that it goes through the three dimensions of health that all contribute to optimum health, which may be an advantage??

2) When looking at morbidity rates, why is it important that we consider both incidence and prevalence rates? Had no idea how to explain this..

2.) Morbidity rates look at how many people suffer from a particular condition and can look at both at prevalence and incidence.  Incidence is usually people within a year who is suffering from a disease etc and prevalence is someone who could have a disease from 50 years ago thats also in the research.

[Rod]

Hi everyone,

So one of the main improvements of the WHO definition is that it was the first time health had ever been considered something apart from physical health (thanks smiley). So what does it exactly mean by this? In the past, did they only look at somebody's physical attributes when determining their health status? And not mental or social?

Thanks!
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[Only Cheating Yourself]

Hi everyone,

So one of the main improvements of the WHO definition is that it was the first time health had ever been considered something apart from physical health (thanks smiley). So what does it exactly mean by this? In the past, did they only look at somebody's physical attributes when determining their health status? And not mental or social?

Thanks!
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Yea in the past they looked at health as 'being sick, having a cold etc' but now as there is mental social and physical, all 3 interrelate with each other for e.g if some one has a positive self-esteem (mental) there usually going to be proactive with going out etc there fore mental health affects social health and vice versa.  In the past they only looked at physical health as you stated so the general terms would be judging someones bodyweight level of physical activity etc, however just because someone has an ideal bodyweight they may not be healthy, they may have a have lost a family member which affects their mental health and can stop the person from living a healthy lifestyle temporally.  So theres more to health than just physical health another example if a person has an 'ideal bodyweight for their size' they would be deemed as healthy, but today with WHO'S health definition it doesn't necessarily mean their healthy, although they may have an ideal bodyweight for their size they could be socially inactive which affect their social health etc.  So basically just because someone is physically healthy doesn't necessarily mean they have optimal health.

[Smiley_]

Yea in the past they looked at health as 'being sick, having a cold etc'

Really? I don't think you meant to say this.

 

but now as there is mental social and physical, all 3 interrelate with each other for e.g if some one has a positive self-esteem (mental) there usually going to be proactive with going out etc there fore mental health affects social health and vice versa.  In the past they only looked at physical health as you stated so the general terms would be judging someones bodyweight level of physical activity etc, however just because someone has an ideal bodyweight they may not be healthy, they may have a have lost a family member which affects their mental health and can stop the person from living a healthy lifestyle temporally.  So theres more to health than just physical health another example if a person has an 'ideal bodyweight for their size' they would be deemed as healthy, but today with WHO'S health definition it doesn't necessarily mean their healthy, although they may have an ideal bodyweight for their size they could be socially inactive which affect their social health etc.  So basically just because someone is physically healthy doesn't necessarily mean they have optimal health.

Yeah This is mostly correct but really your both going into a lot more detail than you need to know about this topic.

All you need to know is the definition of health and each of the dimensions.You learn about WHO later on.

[Only Cheating Yourself]

Yea in the past they looked at health as 'being sick, having a cold etc'  Really? I don't think you meant to say this.

 
Yeah This is mostly correct but really your both going into a lot more detail than you need to know about this topic.

All you need to know is the definition of health and each of the dimensions.You learn about WHO later on.

This is a little issue i need to fix i can start rambling, so know mental,physical,sisal,health and health status definitions from study design?  Also an example?  For the e.g would be wise to just give a characteristic?

[Smiley_]

This is a little issue i need to fix i can start rambling, so know mental,physical,sisal,health and health status definitions from study design?  Also an example?  For the e.g would be wise to just give a characteristic?

No worries putting an example is always a good habit.

[Only Cheating Yourself]

No worries putting an example is always a good habit.

For the e.g say if it i needed to define social health for my e.g can i say 'supportive and well functioning family'?  But thats for optimal health would it matter?

[Rod]

@Smiley

Can you please answer the question I posted earlier, just need a bit of help

Thanks!

[Smiley_]

For the e.g say if it i needed to define social health for my e.g can i say 'supportive and well functioning family'?  But thats for optimal health would it matter?

To define social health you would say

Being able to interact with others and participate in the community in both an independent and cooperative way. Eg having positive and supportive relationship with friends.


That's fine about the optimal health bit.

@Smiley

Can you please answer the question I posted earlier, just need a bit of help

Thanks!

The one about the WHO definition of health??

Basically, previous definitions did not cover all aspects of health therefore were limiting, now the official WHO definition does cover all dimensions of health (this is why they say that the definition has been improved)

Does this make sense? Let me know if you are still confused

[Rod]

To define social health you would say

Being able to interact with others and participate in the community in both an independent and cooperative way. Eg having positive and supportive relationship with friends.


That's fine about the optimal health bit.

The one about the WHO definition of health??

Basically, previous definitions did not cover all aspects of health therefore were limiting, now the official WHO definition does cover all dimensions of health (this is why they say that the definition has been improved)

Does this make sense? Let me know if you are still confused

It does , thank you!

[Smiley_]

It does , thank you!

No worries

[Rod]

Can someone please explain cardiovascular disease to me? Some examples of it and how badly it is affecting our health status.

Thank you