Budget 2014

[alondouek]

----Clive Palmer to oppose deregulation (!)

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While I'm in favour of this, the dude flipflops more than Mitt Romney.

[JellyDonut]

the inner machinations of clive's mind are an enigma

and anthony green has spoken about double dissolution stating that it is unlikely that it would occur anytime soon, especially with how the polls are looking
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2014/05/an-early-double-dissolution-dont-hold-your-breathe.html

also not sure if fee deregulation constitutes a supply bill considering how intrinsically tied it is to government expenditure

[kinslayer]

Would be interesting if deregulation is completely rejected in the senate to see what the LNP does, I mean, is this really a big enough issue for them that they would call a double disillusion if the senate absolutely will not pass it? I suppose if the LNP thinks they could gain enough support in a re-election to get back in with greater numbers they could do it, but if the polls are correct, they would have trouble doing that and may end up in a worse position than they started with.

This is why I love the bicameral system, no government goes formally unquestioned (well, most of the time at least)

There can't be a double dissolution unless Tony Abbott calls for it, and he won't do that unless he thinks he can win the subsequent election.

Also, a DD requires legislation to be knocked back in the Senate at least twice. I was about to post JellyDonut's link and he beat me ( ) but it's a good read.

also not sure if fee deregulation constitutes a supply bill considering how intrinsically tied it is to government expenditure

Supply bills are basically just funding for the government itself. Fee deregulation will be its own piece of legislation which the Greens/PUP/ALP are free to block in the Senate as they please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_of_supply

[kinslayer]

While I'm in favour of this, the dude flipflops more than Mitt Romney.

Unless he's flipflopped since, he has been in favour of fee-free uni places for domestic students as far back as August '13. The recent article that the SMH ran yesterday was a far stretch I reckon. I don't think he's come out  publicly in favour of deregulation.

[slothpomba]

Not sure if its linked but clive palmer declared he opposes the rise in uni fees (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/19/clive-palmer-opposes-deregulation-university-fees).

As i linked a page or two ago, part of their policy document is free education for all. It's been like that since the last election (which is when i last read their policies). Nice to know they're sticking to their guns. Clive is actually a refreshing breath of air. Some people might crucify me for this but i think he's doing a good job, certainly, much better than i expected of him. That's probably the surprising aspect.

I'm not sure whether it counts as a supply bill either. More likely, the coalition will just do behind the scenes horse trading and then pass a budget thats pleasant to all (with some kind of compromise).

Here are some recent palmer videos:

[kinslayer]

Not sure if its linked but clive palmer declared he opposes the rise in uni fees (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/19/clive-palmer-opposes-deregulation-university-fees).

There was this, too:

http://palmerunited.com/2013/08/palmer-united-party-to-abolish-tertiary-education-fees/

[Thu Thu Train]

Abbott is too much of a coward to request a double dissolution because he knows he'll lose. The Governor General could dissolve the House of Representatives without a DD or he could dismiss the PM if he feels that parliament has lost faith in him or whatever. But then we'd probably end up with Pyne as PM.

[alondouek]

Abbott is too much of a coward to request a double dissolution because he knows he'll lose. The Governor General could dissolve the House of Representatives without a DD or he could dismiss the PM if he feels that parliament has lost faith in him or whatever. But then we'd probably end up with Pyne as PM.

Or Turnbull, and it'll all have been worth it.

maybe

[brenden]

The Libs aren't stupid enough to call an election before they're forced to. They'd get decimated right now.

[Paulrus]

The Libs aren't stupid enough to call an election before they're forced to. They'd get decimated right now.

there was a poll from the age which showed that abbott's approval ratings are at something like 34% at the moment, which is abysmal.

of course he's still got the daily telegraph on his side - one of the most disgusting headlines i've seen.

[chasej]

there was a poll from the age which showed that abbott's approval ratings are at something like 34% at the moment, which is abysmal.

of course he's still got the daily telegraph on his side - one of the most disgusting headlines i've seen.
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The telegraph has become a fucking bias disgrace. If my face was published next to headlines implying I was feral I would sue for defamation.

[kinslayer]

Not just the headline -- "Doctors and delinquents stand side by side ..."

I'd laugh if I didn't know how many people lap that stuff up like milk.

[thushan]

there was a poll from the age which showed that abbott's approval ratings are at something like 34% at the moment, which is abysmal.

of course he's still got the daily telegraph on his side - one of the most disgusting headlines i've seen.
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A far right winger's response would be: "About time that this riff raff stop complaining about the Libs' amazing budget that finally does justice to men and women of substance and people who actually work hard."

[JellyDonut]

the ferals are revolting is a beautiful phrase

[Professor Polonsky]

Abbott is too much of a coward to request a double dissolution because he knows he'll lose. The Governor General could dissolve the House of Representatives without a DD or he could dismiss the PM if he feels that parliament has lost faith in him or whatever. But then we'd probably end up with Pyne as PM.

Not sure at all that Pyne will be appointed. If supply is blocked, merely switching heads won't solve anything. The precedent, if supply is blocked through the Senate, is to appoint the Opposition Leader the PM. Of course, that precedent is highly questionable. I think directly dissolving the House of Reps is more likely. This will be a HoR-only election, as barring a double dissolution, the Senate operates on fixed terms.