James Lu should be happy he got 99.95 and stop dishing out on the VCE

[stonecold]

I thought that was the case matty. 

[QuantumJG]

Crap I should have researched this before speaking.

[m@tty]

I thought that was the case matty.  

If it wasn't it would be awesome Even more to make up for English.

[Ilovemathsmeth]

Fully agree with Stonecold. The system is outrageous.

[samuch]

Crap I should have researched this before speaking.

lol
 "It is better to leave your mouth closed and have others think you a fool than open your mouth and prove it." - Abraham Lincoln

not calling you a fool or anything, the quote just popped up in my mind when i read ur post

[QuantumJG]

Crap I should have researched this before speaking.

lol
 "It is better to leave your mouth closed and have others think you a fool than open your mouth and prove it." - Abraham Lincoln

not calling you a fool or anything, the quote just popped up in my mind when i read ur post

That's cool.

Good quote aswell, I probably should follow it too.

[m@tty]

Very good quote

[m@tty]

This is the letter?

"Keeping it even
JAMES Lu's critique of VCE scaling (Letters, 15/12) demonstrates a glaring misunderstanding of how and why subjects are scaled. Scaling exists to ensure a level playing field, so that no one subject poses an advantage over another in the allocation of marks.

Distribution of scores across subjects can differ greatly, with many not representing a normal distribution. Scaling fixes this problem. If scaling didn't exist, then students would gravitate towards subjects perceived to be conceptually easier. That would foster real exploitation of the system.

Tristan Gooey, Dingley"

http://www.theage.com.au/national/letters/a-public-treasure-we-must-retain-20091215-kufs.html

That person themselves seems to have a misunderstanding of the scaling system. It's not to balance out the difficulty of subjects (with the exception of perhaps Specialist Maths with it scaling over 50), but rather, to account for the strength of the cohort in each subject. The 'perceived conceptual difficulty' of a subject is irrelevant, just as is the difficulty of the exams that came up that year. Neither has any bearing on scaling.

This person really is misinformed in regards to VCE. If strong students gravitate to 'conceptually easier' subjects those subjects will become more competitive, and would result in higher study scores requiring higher GA grades, the grade distribution will be shifted up. Where strong students congregate there will be a need for strong scaling. Gooey also doesn't understand how the exams are marked, VCAA makes their own bell curve, all they require is a well written exam with questions increasing in difficulty to separate students.

[physics]

what school did james lu go to?

[m@tty]

Melbourne Grammer School

[physics]

Melbourne Grammer School

was he one of those azn guys that were in the herald sun !?
he was right...

[ninwa]

Sure learning a LOTE is possibly the hardest of the VCE subjects, however when you consider that LOTE's aren't prerequisites for any university courses, it's hard to see why a student would choose to do the study, other than for scaling incentives.

My German class only had 3 people in it, none of whom cared about the scaling - we all just wanted to learn.

If I wanted the scaling incentives I would've done Chinese. It's my first language but I would have qualified for 2nd language - I did a Chinese 2nd language advanced exam for fun without having studied it past year 8 and it was very easy for me.

[stonecold]

Sure learning a LOTE is possibly the hardest of the VCE subjects, however when you consider that LOTE's aren't prerequisites for any university courses, it's hard to see why a student would choose to do the study, other than for scaling incentives.

My German class only had 3 people in it, none of whom cared about the scaling - we all just wanted to learn.

If I wanted the scaling incentives I would've done Chinese. It's my first language but I would have qualified for 2nd language - I did a Chinese 2nd language advanced exam for fun without having studied it past year 8 and it was very easy for me.

I know not all students do LOTE for scaling incentives, as there are those such as yourself who have a genuine interest in other languages, however I do believe many of the students who do LOTE's that scale well above 50 choose to do so because they see it as a way to maximize there score.

[xXNovaxX]

^ Yeah they do, I know this chick who openly said shes doing French for the scaling, she was so cocky and stuck up, she only ended up getting like a 30 SCALED, even thoguh she kept getting A's etc in SACS.

Goes to show, you should only do a subject if you really have a passion for it, like Ninwa did and many others, its stupid to look at the scaling

[GerrySly]

^ Yeah they do, I know this chick who openly said shes doing French for the scaling, she was so cocky and stuck up, she only ended up getting like a 30 SCALED, even thoguh she kept getting A's etc in SACS.

Goes to show, you should only do a subject if you really have a passion for it, like Ninwa did and many others, its stupid to look at the scaling

I only did French for the scaling, didn't work out well haha