Melbourne Breadth

[Edmund]

If you like, you could consider doing a diploma in addition to your undergrad degree. For example, to get a Diploma in Languages, you could take languages as your breadth, as well as a few other required to gain the diploma. Check out the link above

[dejan91]

If you like, you could consider doing a diploma in addition to your undergrad degree. For example, to get a Diploma in Languages, you could take languages as your breadth, as well as a few other required to gain the diploma. Check out the link above

Ohh mannnn does the diploma take subjects from your breadth?? I thought it was commerce subs + breadth in something + extra subs for diploma :S

[IntoTheNewWorld]

If you like, you could consider doing a diploma in addition to your undergrad degree. For example, to get a Diploma in Languages, you could take languages as your breadth, as well as a few other required to gain the diploma. Check out the link above

Ohh mannnn does the diploma take subjects from your breadth?? I thought it was commerce subs + breadth in something + extra subs for diploma :S

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't have to take subjects from your breadth. You'll be at Uni a year longer if it doesn't though.

[dejan91]

If you like, you could consider doing a diploma in addition to your undergrad degree. For example, to get a Diploma in Languages, you could take languages as your breadth, as well as a few other required to gain the diploma. Check out the link above

Ohh mannnn does the diploma take subjects from your breadth?? I thought it was commerce subs + breadth in something + extra subs for diploma :S

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't have to take subjects from your breadth. You'll be at Uni a year longer if it doesn't though.

Hmmm interesting... even if I decide on doing a Masters course after three years? (So the diploma extends and is co-current with the Masters)

[IntoTheNewWorld]

If you like, you could consider doing a diploma in addition to your undergrad degree. For example, to get a Diploma in Languages, you could take languages as your breadth, as well as a few other required to gain the diploma. Check out the link above

Ohh mannnn does the diploma take subjects from your breadth?? I thought it was commerce subs + breadth in something + extra subs for diploma :S

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't have to take subjects from your breadth. You'll be at Uni a year longer if it doesn't though.

Hmmm interesting... even if I decide on doing a Masters course after three years? (So the diploma extends and is co-current with the Masters)

I don't think you'll be able to do the Masters course until you finish both the Bachelor and the diploma (4 years all up if you don't use breadth subjects). I think there's a bunch of sample diploma timetables on the UoM site.

[dejan91]

If you like, you could consider doing a diploma in addition to your undergrad degree. For example, to get a Diploma in Languages, you could take languages as your breadth, as well as a few other required to gain the diploma. Check out the link above

Ohh mannnn does the diploma take subjects from your breadth?? I thought it was commerce subs + breadth in something + extra subs for diploma :S

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't have to take subjects from your breadth. You'll be at Uni a year longer if it doesn't though.

Hmmm interesting... even if I decide on doing a Masters course after three years? (So the diploma extends and is co-current with the Masters)

I don't think you'll be able to do the Masters course until you finish both the Bachelor and the diploma (4 years all up if you don't use breadth subjects). I think there's a bunch of sample diploma timetables on the UoM site.

Ok, damn... Well I'm really not in the mood to spend six years at uni lol. I'll just talk to them and see what they can do I guess.

[Edmund]

If you like, you could consider doing a diploma in addition to your undergrad degree. For example, to get a Diploma in Languages, you could take languages as your breadth, as well as a few other required to gain the diploma. Check out the link above

Ohh mannnn does the diploma take subjects from your breadth?? I thought it was commerce subs + breadth in something + extra subs for diploma :S

I'm pretty sure that it doesn't have to take subjects from your breadth. You'll be at Uni a year longer if it doesn't though.

Hmmm interesting... even if I decide on doing a Masters course after three years? (So the diploma extends and is co-current with the Masters)

I don't think you'll be able to do the Masters course until you finish both the Bachelor and the diploma (4 years all up if you don't use breadth subjects). I think there's a bunch of sample diploma timetables on the UoM site.

Ok, damn... Well I'm really not in the mood to spend six years at uni lol. I'll just talk to them and see what they can do I guess.

Yeah but if you are good enough then you could fast track it to finish both degrees under three years

[ReVeL]

oh and just another point-the 24 v 18 commerce subject comparison is somewhat flawed. if you do an accounting major at melbourne, a few subjects that are required for that particular major are actually taken from the law department, thus counting as breadth, yet monash will also (i'm assuming) have a few subjects related to business+tax law that are compulsory for their accounting major (probably?). thus the difference in the number of commerce subjects you take is not as great as six subjects, i don't think.

This is true. Principles of Business Law, Corporate Law, and Taxation Law must all be taken if you want to major in accounting, and can be done so as breadth subjects. Even if the Melbourne Model didn't exist those units would still be required, so it's really more like 21 v 24.

[dejan91]

Yeah but if you are good enough then you could fast track it to finish both degrees under three years

How is that? Would you just work much harder?

oh and just another point-the 24 v 18 commerce subject comparison is somewhat flawed. if you do an accounting major at melbourne, a few subjects that are required for that particular major are actually taken from the law department, thus counting as breadth, yet monash will also (i'm assuming) have a few subjects related to business+tax law that are compulsory for their accounting major (probably?). thus the difference in the number of commerce subjects you take is not as great as six subjects, i don't think.

This is true. Principles of Business Law, Corporate Law, and Taxation Law must all be taken if you want to major in accounting, and can be done so as breadth subjects. Even if the Melbourne Model didn't exist those units would still be required, so it's really more like 21 v 24.

I'm assuming this is only for the accounting major though. If you chose a finance major, it would be a different story, right?

[ReVeL]

Yeah you're right. But really, a knowledge of law in the business world would be quite useful wouldn't you agree? Even if I wasn't doing an accounting major, I'd still take those subjects because of their relevance to the workplace.

[*ryan777*]

Yeah you're right. But really, a knowledge of law in the business world would be quite useful wouldn't you agree? Even if I wasn't doing an accounting major, I'd still take those subjects because of their relevance to the workplace.

depending on how high you intend to climb the corporate ladder, knowing at least whats legal and whats not could really save yourself some money or time behind bars

[dejan91]

Yeah you're right. But really, a knowledge of law in the business world would be quite useful wouldn't you agree? Even if I wasn't doing an accounting major, I'd still take those subjects because of their relevance to the workplace.

depending on how high you intend to climb the corporate ladder, knowing at least whats legal and whats not could really save yourself some money or time behind bars

Yes that's true, that's true. However, University wouldn't be the only time and place you'd get to learn about law, etc in the business world (it would just be convenient...which, I guess, is what you're really saying lol...)

[jejak]

Quote from: Edmund on January 11, 2010, 01:35:03 PM
Yeah but if you are good enough then you could fast track it to finish both degrees under three years

How is that? Would you just work much harder?

Refer to page 12 of this PDF http://tinyurl.com/yc3zxkw with regards to the structure for fast-tracking the dip lang. From what I can tell, you start doing 3rd-yr level classes, that contribute to your "core" program, in second year - you would probably need solid academic results in your core classes to allow for this. This way, you can cram in more language subjects at third year. Note that this is cross-credited to the diploma and your degree.

[dejan91]

Well from what I can see, it still compromises your bachelor program (core and breadth). I don't think that would work for me, because I'm looking to do a Master of Engineering after the BComm and so I need an engineering sequence in breadth... I just refuse to believe there is NO way of leaving the core and breadth subjects alone and still do the diploma. Why can't you complete the diploma out of the BComm contact hours...?

[jejak]

Why can't you complete the diploma out of the BComm contact hours...?

Unless I've misread something, you can (for BComm at least.) You just have to make sure that you begin the diploma at first year. This is made clear on page 13 of the PDF.