Chem Results

[Stroodle]

Your cohorts performance in the exams influence your sac marks - i.e. if your cohort goes well, your sac marks scale up. So to an extent your individual exam performance does affect your sac marks, but it's minimal (the larger the cohort the smaller the effect).

[strathyboy23]

Got an A, I've got to stop making silly errors
There were 6 A+'s, 3A's and 4 B+'s in my class of 22. The other class in my school, however, did not perform as well (highest score was a B+). Having said that, seeing as how only one person got above 40 in chem at my school last year, I think my cohort is travelling fairly well.

[iffets12345]

I'd like know how sacs work then...

I was averagin low/mid A's for revs last year and ranked about 10th in a cohort of 40. Then got 3 A+'s and managed the higest study score. My teacher told me it was because i must have done really well on the exam..?

The exam really counts I suppose. I do care about my sac marks but more because of the confidence booster and the fact that it might half prove I'm on the right track. I've never actually been bothered by how they affect my raw...at the end of the day its almost 100% exam.

[busterBluth]

I honest dont think you can get a 45 with A for mid years. this is my opinion alright

cos high A = top10%
Assume you have high A+ for ur end of year top 1%
And then you have a high A+ for sacs top 1%

That averages out to be top 4% and a 45 is top 2%.

If you think about it that way then only around a 42 MAYBE 43 is possible. I also thought ur A in ur mid years will lower ur sac mark, since a good exam mark scales up ur sac marks.

impossible you say...

Well my...."friend" got
GA1: A+ (extremelyyy high)
GA2: A+
GA3: A (highest possible A)
and 45 RAW for bio last yr......so yeah your theory is wrong. It's possible all of you 'A' people

[vexx]

I honest dont think you can get a 45 with A for mid years. this is my opinion alright

cos high A = top10%
Assume you have high A+ for ur end of year top 1%
And then you have a high A+ for sacs top 1%

That averages out to be top 4% and a 45 is top 2%.

If you think about it that way then only around a 42 MAYBE 43 is possible. I also thought ur A in ur mid years will lower ur sac mark, since a good exam mark scales up ur sac marks.

your not thinking about it right.
getting 3 mid A+ is ~45
say if one of those A+ becomes higher and the lower low it's still ~45
say if two of those A+s become much higher and then one of these goes down to an A it balances out to still ~45

[TrueTears]

yeh, A+ A A+ for methods can get you 48, so yeah very possible to get A and still get high 40's

[taiga]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

[luken93]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....

[Slumdawg]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....

Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.

[10weid]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

im pretty sure the person with sac ranking X takes the Xth exam mark as their sac mark... not as their exam mark

so if ur ranked tenth n sacs, and u top the exam, u get the top exam mark as ur exam mark, and the tenth exam mark as ur sac mark... that is, to he best of my knowledge (from the VCE chief assessor in spec. mathematics), how it works..

[luken93]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....

Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.

hahaha "that" 44, who was so close to a 45, butt just failed to get there hahaha

[Slumdawg]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....

Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.

hahaha "that" 44, who was so close to a 45, butt just failed to get there hahaha

"that" 44 was two marks off a 50! Probably half a mark off a 45? haha

[luken93]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

In theory yes, but outliers may occur.
We had a cohort of around 100 kids in Bus Man, and a girl who wouldve been sitting around top 15-20, got the highest exam mark by far, and got a 49, the next closest being 44....

Yep and 'that' 44 would have been sitting on a sac ranking of around 20-25th out of 100. And yet others who had close to perfect sac scores ended up with lower study scores.

hahaha "that" 44, who was so close to a 45, butt just failed to get there hahaha

"that" 44 was two marks off a 50! Probably half a mark off a 45? haha

so close, yet so far....

[stonecold]

If you are the 10th best in your class in your SACs, you will get the 10th highest exam mark in that class irrespective of your own exam score. Even if you got the best exam score in the class, the smart kid who came first in the SACs will take your exam mark and that will become his SAC mark.

im pretty sure the person with sac ranking X takes the Xth exam mark as their sac mark... not as their exam mark

so if ur ranked tenth n sacs, and u top the exam, u get the top exam mark as ur exam mark, and the tenth exam mark as ur sac mark... that is, to he best of my knowledge (from the VCE chief assessor in spec. mathematics), how it works..

that is 100% how it works.

[m@tty]

Not exactly. It is a good approximation though.

VCAA explanation...