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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #420 on: October 04, 2011, 03:32:39 pm »
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we probably do, since it was covered in unit1/2
Really! We haven't learnt about it at all (I didn't think it was part of the study design). BTW Nacho i'm surprised you didn't learn about it at MacRob!  ;D
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #421 on: October 04, 2011, 04:54:01 pm »
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we probably do, since it was covered in unit1/2

Doubt it, most people have no idea how to use it if it were an application for a point or graph (eg. rotate a parabola by 30 degrees or something).


we probably do, since it was covered in unit1/2
Really! We haven't learnt about it at all (I didn't think it was part of the study design). BTW Nacho i'm surprised you didn't learn about it at MacRob!  ;D
lol, nach @ macrob, lol

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #422 on: October 04, 2011, 04:59:59 pm »
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we probably do, since it was covered in unit1/2

Doubt it, most people have no idea how to use it if it were an application for a point or graph (eg. rotate a parabola by 30 degrees or something).


we probably do, since it was covered in unit1/2
Really! We haven't learnt about it at all (I didn't think it was part of the study design). BTW Nacho i'm surprised you didn't learn about it at MacRob!  ;D
lol, nach @ macrob, lol
what say, know it anyway?
although i trust your instincts, it seems like they've never assessed it,
but it would make for a valid mc quesiton;
'what matrix below describes the rotation of this graph by 30 degrees clock wise?'


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Another question, how strict are VCAA with their answering formalities?
By this i mean,
if a question says, 'show that b= 1'
And you write:
because f(0) = 0      (intercept at (0,0)
therefore e^0 - b = 0
=> 1- b = 0
therefore b =1
Would i get the mark?
the solutions have:
'the graph f(x) passes through (0,0)
so 0 - e^0 - b
b = e^0
b = 1 , as required '
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #423 on: October 04, 2011, 11:48:49 pm »
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Yup you would get the mark lol. You don't need exact same wording.  :P

On an aside is the answer to this question below 80x / (x+80) km/h ?

A car travels half the distance of a journey at an average speed of 80 km/h and half at an
average speed of x km/h.
Define a function, S, which gives the average speed for the total journey as a function of x.

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #424 on: October 05, 2011, 12:04:44 am »
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Nah you don't need to know the rotations matrix :) - it's not on the MAM Study Design

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #425 on: October 05, 2011, 12:06:13 am »
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i got 160x/(x + 80)..
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« Reply #426 on: October 05, 2011, 12:13:54 am »
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brightsky what did you get for the time for both intervals of the journey?

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #427 on: October 05, 2011, 12:21:36 am »
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brightsky what did you get for the time for both intervals of the journey?

On quick inspection, this is how I would do the question. Let d = half the total distance.

distance = speed x time.



















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« Reply #428 on: October 05, 2011, 02:42:43 am »
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Thanks for your help Luffy.

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #429 on: October 05, 2011, 09:07:15 pm »
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Hi guys,
If a question asks for the antiderivative or an antiderivative do i put in the + c ?
I've heard that we don't need to for 'an antiderivative' but my teacher said to put it in, would I get marks taken off?

And where can I find TSFX or Insight 2011 Exams?

Thanks in advance. Good luck studying!  :D

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #430 on: October 05, 2011, 09:23:07 pm »
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Hi guys,
If a question asks for the antiderivative or an antiderivative do i put in the + c ?
I've heard that we don't need to for 'an antiderivative' but my teacher said to put it in, would I get marks taken off?

And where can I find TSFX or Insight 2011 Exams?

Thanks in advance. Good luck studying!  :D
OMG i swear i posted something twice and it didnt come up....

ALWAYS PUT +C if you dont you run the risk of losing the mark if you misread the question!

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #431 on: October 05, 2011, 09:28:21 pm »
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don't put +C for 'an antiderivative' coz if you do then you're not giving them 1 but rather a family of antiderivatives.
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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #432 on: October 05, 2011, 09:40:45 pm »
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don't put +C for 'an antiderivative' coz if you do then you're not giving them 1 but rather a family of antiderivatives.
but they dont take marks off for this do they? only if you dont include them when you have to?

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« Reply #433 on: October 05, 2011, 09:51:03 pm »
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AN antiderivative, implies that you are finding a particular solution to the derivative given. Therefore, you can put any number (including 0) because that is a particular solution.

Antidifferentiate ___ implies that you need to integrate something and find a general solution, therefore + c is needed.

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Re: Maths Methods 3/4 Help Thread
« Reply #434 on: October 05, 2011, 09:52:39 pm »
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don't put +C for 'an antiderivative' coz if you do then you're not giving them 1 but rather a family of antiderivatives.
but they dont take marks off for this do they? only if you dont include them when you have to?
they should, you haven't answered the question properly if you leave +c in
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