Subject selection regrets: HELP!

[iNerd]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.

I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50 (out of like what, 15 psych members?)...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

4 people that are gunning for, not saying that it will be easy. So, so far you have none.

Um, you only say you're going to get a 50 cause you think its easy lol. I doubt anyone in the whole of VCE will say getting a 50 in spesh is easy? ...it's implied that if you're aiming for a 50 you're saying its easy. And are you honestly telling me that people don't say Psych is easy cause guess what, people (especially Y12s) take it under the misconception that it's easy.

[Cayteelin]

I think Cayteelin makes it seem like a breezes because he/she is so passionate about it.

I think ultimately, if the decision becomes too difficult, go with what you love which is obviously Pysch. The ATAR score difference will depend on how you go in other subjects as well. If you think that Psych will be in your top 4 and revs won't be, obviously the extra study scores you gain in psych will have a greater impact on your ATAR. Honestly, it's often too hard to be expecting what will be in your top 4, but yes, it's possible that repeating psych will increase your ATAR.
I will repeat though, doing what you love is important and will help you to do well. That might be the deciding factor for you. Don't waste your education on things you don't find useful or interesting to you.

Thanks, this is exactly how I'm thinking at the moment!

[Garp]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

The amount of students taking Psych does not indicate whether it's easy to get 50 or not as it all depends on the strength of the students of that year.

[Menang]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.

I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

In any subject, bludge or no bludge, there will be tough competition vying fr those coveted 45+ study scores.

Lol no offense but your making Psych seem like a breeze.

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Personally I'd go with Uni Psych, it seems like a great course (PM minilunchbox about it!)

PS. I'm almost tempted you take Psych so I can have a friendly comp with you, but IMO your better off with Uni Psych especially considering that's the field you want to enter.

I know Psych is definitely not a breeze, I did do it last year
But it will be much easier for me as I'm familiar with a lot of the course work, and I know exactly how to study it now. I've also discussed the new study design with my teacher; he said I shouldn't worry too much about it.

I can't do the Uni thing anymore, if you read my other post I couldn't find universities that have it available in my area and it was way competitive to get into.

The exact degree I want to do is combined Psych/Business admin, where around the lowest and highest scores I need is about 81-85... so yeah!

It's good that you can learn from last year, and that you are familiar with the coursework, but so were the students who have already tried repeating 3/4's, who didn't improve all that much. Even with knowing all this, getting a 40+ in Psych the second time round will require as much, if not more work, as doing Revs and acquiring a decent 30's score.


But of course, like I said, it's about what you deem important, and you seem to be really passionate about Psych, and if that's what you want there's nothing stopping you from working hard and pulling off an amazing SS.

[iNerd]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

The amount of students taking Psych does not indicate whether it's easy to get 50 or not as it all depends on the strength of the students of that year.

That's bad phrasing on my part. I merely was indicating the competition of Psych and the fact that people go under the assumption that a 50 is easy hence the large amount of students enrolling in the subject.

[Ghost!]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.

I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50 (out of like what, 15 psych members?)...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

4 people that are gunning for, not saying that it will be easy. So, so far you have none.

Um, you only say you're going to get a 50 cause you think its easy lol. I doubt anyone in the whole of VCE will say getting a 50 in spesh is easy? ...it's implied that if you're aiming for a 50 you're saying its easy. And are you honestly telling me that people don't say Psych is easy cause guess what, people (especially Y12s) take it under the misconception that it's easy.

Oh god, do you honestly think that? What you're saying doesn't even make sense, because you aim high you're saying it's easy? The two don't even correlate. When you aim for a 50 in a class, the general perception by those around you is not that you think it's easy.

[Cayteelin]

Lol no offense but your making Psych seem like a breeze.

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Personally I'd go with Uni Psych, it seems like a great course (PM minilunchbox about it!)

PS. I'm almost tempted you take Psych so I can have a friendly comp with you, but IMO your better off with Uni Psych especially considering that's the field you want to enter.

I know Psych is definitely not a breeze, I did do it last year
But it will be much easier for me as I'm familiar with a lot of the course work, and I know exactly how to study it now. I've also discussed the new study design with my teacher; he said I shouldn't worry too much about it.

I can't do the Uni thing anymore, if you read my other post I couldn't find universities that have it available in my area and it was way competitive to get into.

The exact degree I want to do is combined Psych/Business admin, where around the lowest and highest scores I need is about 81-85... so yeah!

It's good that you can learn from last year, and that you are familiar with the coursework, but so were the students who have already tried repeating 3/4's, who didn't improve all that much. Even with knowing all this, getting a 40+ in Psych the second time round will require as much, if not more work, as doing Revs and acquiring a decent 30's score.


But of course, like I said, it's about what you deem important, and you seem to be really passionate about Psych, and if that's what you want there's nothing stopping you from working hard and pulling off an amazing SS.
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Mm, but I'm sure the people who repeated got bored. I can see how it can happen, overestimating your ability because you don't see the point in restudying stuff too heavily that you already know and all.
But I am soooo damn stressed about getting the ATAR score I need, that I will try my absolute hardest at all my subjects. The thing is, I would much more prefer to be doing that with Psych than with Revs; something completely unfamiliar to me because the last time I did any type of History was in year 8!

[iNerd]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.

I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50 (out of like what, 15 psych members?)...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

4 people that are gunning for, not saying that it will be easy. So, so far you have none.

Um, you only say you're going to get a 50 cause you think its easy lol. I doubt anyone in the whole of VCE will say getting a 50 in spesh is easy? ...it's implied that if you're aiming for a 50 you're saying its easy. And are you honestly telling me that people don't say Psych is easy cause guess what, people (especially Y12s) take it under the misconception that it's easy.

Oh god, do you honestly think that? What you're saying doesn't even make sense, because you aim high you're saying it's easy? The two don't even correlate. When you aim for a 50 in a class, the general perception by those around you is not that you think it's easy.

On the contrary, if you're aiming for a 50 your either a) extremely confident/smart (fair enough {insert thushan} ) or b) under the assumption that the subject is easy...
Let's just agree to disagree here, it's not helping the OP in any way, you can PM me about it if you want.

[Ghost!]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.

I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50 (out of like what, 15 psych members?)...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

4 people that are gunning for, not saying that it will be easy. So, so far you have none.

Um, you only say you're going to get a 50 cause you think its easy lol. I doubt anyone in the whole of VCE will say getting a 50 in spesh is easy? ...it's implied that if you're aiming for a 50 you're saying its easy. And are you honestly telling me that people don't say Psych is easy cause guess what, people (especially Y12s) take it under the misconception that it's easy.

Oh god, do you honestly think that? What you're saying doesn't even make sense, because you aim high you're saying it's easy? The two don't even correlate. When you aim for a 50 in a class, the general perception by those around you is not that you think it's easy.

On the contrary, if you're aiming for a 50 your either a) extremely confident/smart (fair enough {insert thushan} ) or b) under the assumption that the subject is easy...
Let's just agree to disagree here, it's not helping the OP in any way, you can PM me about it if you want.

You're completely ignoring the idea that you might aim for a 50 because it's what you want, or because you want to beat a friend/sibling. There are a dozen reasons to aim for a perfect score, not just your two stupid ones.

[iNerd]

I don't think you quite understand the significance of a new study design, a new Section C and the fact that thousands and thousands of other people are going in with "Psych is going to give me an easy 50..."

Overstatement of 2011.

I disagree. You'll find that most students take Psych as their "easy bludge".
Keep in mind that ~15 000 people take Psych. That is more than a quarter of all VCE students.

Thousands and thousands. I challenge you to find 100 who think they're inline for a perfect score.

I'm sure the OP understood the gist of what I was saying...and lol, we have 4 on this forum alone gunning for a 50 (out of like what, 15 psych members?)...and from the way people talk about Psych it's generally tended to be misconceived as an "easy bludge".

4 people that are gunning for, not saying that it will be easy. So, so far you have none.

Um, you only say you're going to get a 50 cause you think its easy lol. I doubt anyone in the whole of VCE will say getting a 50 in spesh is easy? ...it's implied that if you're aiming for a 50 you're saying its easy. And are you honestly telling me that people don't say Psych is easy cause guess what, people (especially Y12s) take it under the misconception that it's easy.

Oh god, do you honestly think that? What you're saying doesn't even make sense, because you aim high you're saying it's easy? The two don't even correlate. When you aim for a 50 in a class, the general perception by those around you is not that you think it's easy.

On the contrary, if you're aiming for a 50 your either a) extremely confident/smart (fair enough {insert thushan} ) or b) under the assumption that the subject is easy...
Let's just agree to disagree here, it's not helping the OP in any way, you can PM me about it if you want.

You're completely ignoring the idea that you might aim for a 50 because it's what you want, or because you want to beat a friend/sibling. There are a dozen reasons to aim for a perfect score, not just your two stupid ones.

That's wishful thinking, oh I want a 50 because I want to beat Person X. I'm talking of an actual aim of 50 where the person will not be satisfied with anything but a 50. To go out and tell the public that your aim is a 50 shows a sign of confidence/strength or a sign that you think your subject is easy enough to get a 50. I reaffirm, let's agree to disagree here before things get out of hand (stupid reasons? lol step back bro).

[Pixon]

Actually, I find that aiming for 50 is not a bad thing. You might as well aim for a big score to give yourself the best opportunity of doing well. However, I think it's foolish to EXPECT a 50, which to be honest I often think is a case of luck. In any case, I'd say that ATAR doesn't like the idea of people thinking they can get 50 because that means less positions for him to get a 50. Chyeah.

On a more serious note, if Cayteelin has a strong understanding of how people fall short when repeating a subject, I think he/she will avoid those issues. To me, it seems as though the decision has been made...you clearly don't want to do Revs. Nobody on this forum should force you to do otherwise; we've given our advice and you've made the appropriate choice for yourself with it.

P.S...ATAR, don't take yet another thread off-topic with the random arguments you get in. Bring it back on topic.

[Ghost!]

Stop telling me that the reason I'm aiming for what I am is because I'm extremely confident, or because I think it's easy. It's neither of those, therefore you're wrong. You can't argue with that.

Edit - Thanks for bringing things back around to the OP Pixon.

[iNerd]

Actually, I find that aiming for 50 is not a bad thing. You might as well aim for a big score to give yourself the best opportunity of doing well. However, I think it's foolish to EXPECT a 50, which to be honest I often think is a case of luck. In any case, I'd say that ATAR doesn't like the idea of people thinking they can get 50 because that means less positions for him to get a 50. Chyeah.

On a more serious note, if Cayteelin has a strong understanding of how people fall short when repeating a subject, I think he/she will avoid those issues. To me, it seems as though the decision has been made...you clearly don't want to do Revs. Nobody on this forum should force you to do otherwise; we've given our advice and you've made the appropriate choice for yourself with it.

P.S...ATAR, don't take yet another thread off-topic with the random arguments you get in. Bring it back on topic.

Lol I've said "let's agree to disagree" twice now, trying to stop him. I agree with your statement of people EXPECTING a 50 and no, as my signature states I require anything over 40 to be saved by Psych's scaling :/

[iNerd]

Stop telling me that the reason I'm aiming for what I am is because I'm extremely confident, or because I think it's easy. It's neither of those, therefore you're wrong. You can't argue with that.

Kay I'm wrong. Be happy now

[Menang]

Actually, I find that aiming for 50 is not a bad thing. You might as well aim for a big score to give yourself the best opportunity of doing well. However, I think it's foolish to EXPECT a 50, which to be honest I often think is a case of luck. In any case, I'd say that ATAR doesn't like the idea of people thinking they can get 50 because that means less positions for him to get a 50. Chyeah.

On a more serious note, if Cayteelin has a strong understanding of how people fall short when repeating a subject, I think he/she will avoid those issues. To me, it seems as though the decision has been made...you clearly don't want to do Revs. Nobody on this forum should force you to do otherwise; we've given our advice and you've made the appropriate choice for yourself with it.

P.S...ATAR, don't take yet another thread off-topic with the random arguments you get in. Bring it back on topic.

That.
Like, literally, everything in that post.