Breadth Requirements & Questions

[stonecold]

I would just like a few things about breadth clarified please.

I understand you can only take 3 subjects at level 1.  Is this 3 subjects out of the compulsory 4 breadth subjects, or 3 subjects out of the 4 breadth + 2 free elective subjects?

Similarly, at least 1 subject must be from level 2 or 3.  Does this have to be a breadth subject, or can it be a free elective subject?

I am not too concerned with all this, because most of the subjects I am looking at are level 2 and 3 anyway.

Also, are you able to take any level of subjects straight up?  Or do you have to start at level 1, then progress to levels 2 and 3.  I am currently under the impression that unless a subject has a prerequisite, you can take it, not matter what level it is.

And finally, with your 2 free electives, they can be used on ANY subjects which you have met the prerequisites for right?

For example, after doing Calc 1, I may want to do Calc 2 + Linear Algebra to keep my options open for engineering should I one day have a change of heart.  Unlikely to happen, but you never know.  I could do these as free electives right?

Sorry for all the questions.  I am just unsure.

And I am still torn over which Breadth Subjects to do.  There are so many!

[Russ]

You can only take 3 breadth subjects as level 1. If you're doing an elective (say, genetics) it's not breadth. As such, at least 1 breadth subject must be level 2/3.

You can do whatever subject, whenever as long as you meet any pre/co requisites. Level 3 in 1st year is fine, level 1 in 3rd year is fine.

Your 2 free electives are just that, free. Take whatever subject you want.

What breadth are you thinking of now? I need ideas myself.

[Edmund]

I understand you can only take 3 subjects at level 1.  Is this 3 subjects out of the compulsory 4 breadth subjects, or 3 subjects out of the 4 breadth + 2 free elective subjects?

The 3 Level 1 subjects is part of the compulsory 4 breadth subjects. You can do Level 1 subjects in the 2 free elective subjects but remember you can only do a maximum of 10 Level 1 subjects in your whole degree.

Also, are you able to take any level of subjects straight up?  Or do you have to start at level 1, then progress to levels 2 and 3.  I am currently under the impression that unless a subject has a prerequisite, you can take it, not matter what level it is.

You can do any subject if you have met the prerequisites. But for languages, if you are taking up a beginners language, you must complete the Level 1 version of the subject (and not Level 2) - this is for science/biomed students, not sure for other courses...

E.g. For Chinese 1A there are CHIN10005 and CHIN20023 and only the Level 1 subject is available as breadth 

[stonecold]

My innate suckiness at LOTE will prevent me from exploring any foreign languages.

Thanks for clearing that up guys.

At the moment, I am unsure whether to do a track or just take random subjects.  If I were to take a track, then it would most likely be linguistics related.  I know you don't have to follow it, so I could still change it and put in the specific linguistics subjects that I want.  I find criminology really interesting as well, but never having done anything like it before worries me, and a lot of the assessment is written.  At least I have EngLang to help me with linguistics, and I actually do enjoy it.  

Doing the Nature of Human Development (Psych Track) would have been nice, but most of the subjects are not allowed for biomed and science students.

I also find many of the single UNIBreadth subjects fascinating.  I am seriously contemplating doing the druggie one.  Join me Russ!!!

The Genetics, Health, and Society and Seeing: The Whole Picture also look very interesting/tempting.

Critical Thinking with Data would mainly be for GAMSAT prep if I took it.

So at the moment I am tossing up between doing all linguistic subjects or lots of different UniBreadth subjects.  I could also do both, if I decide not to use any of my free electives for Maths/Science.

Here are the links if anyone wants them:

English Language Breadth Track
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/!065XX-BRDS%2B1053

Liguistics Breadth Track
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/!065XX-BRDS%2B1093

Criminology Breadth Track
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/!065XX-BRDS%2B1038

The Nature of Human Development Breadth Track
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/!065XX-BRDS%2B1136

Logic, meaning and computation Breadth Track
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/!065XX-BRDM%2B1003

Critical Thinking With Data
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/UNIB10006

Genetics, Health, and Society
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/UNIB20007

Drugs That Shape Society
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/UNIB20008

Seeing: The Whole Picture
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/UNIB10004

[Russ]

Genetics health and society is a great breadth but do it in second year. You're guaranteed an H1 for it, if you get the mark in 2nd year it gets weighted x2

Drugs that shape society, I've heard different things about but it's apparently not too bad. You have to go into court at least once though, which I'm kinda iffy on

[Slumdawg]

haha yeah I'm having the same problem... wayyyyyy too many breadths to choose from. atm these are the ones I'm considering:

Principles of Business Law
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/BLAW10001

Introductory Microeconomics
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/ECON10004

Accounting reports and analysis
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/ACCT10001

Witches and witch hunting in Europe
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/HIST20025

Drugs that shape society
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/UNIB20008

Film genres and media hybrids
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/SCRN30002

Music Psychology
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/MUSI20149

The unconscious mind
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/PSYC30012

Psychoanalysis and Social Theory
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/SOTH30004

Body, Mind and Medicine: A Dissection
https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/UNIB20013

[Edmund]

Drugs that shape society is so bad, most of the science stuff is common sense, the other content is so dry and it makes me want to bash my head with a brick. Lectures aren't too bad but tutes are just a waste of time (but are compulsory so you have no choice). But you can go ahead and try, you might like it

[Russ]

Yeah that was one of the things I heard but others said they liked it. I might steer clear though. Probably going to stick with the public health breadth unless something great comes up. Or I could end up with science again haha.

[mikee65]

Yeah that was one of the things I heard but others said they liked it. I might steer clear though. Probably going to stick with the public health breadth unless something great comes up. Or I could end up with science again haha.

Which Public Health breadth are you referring to? Its not the world diagnosis one, the others cant be used as breadth.

Does the level in any way correspond to the difficulty of the subject?

[stonecold]

Drugs that shape society is so bad, most of the science stuff is common sense, the other content is so dry and it makes me want to bash my head with a brick. Lectures aren't too bad but tutes are just a waste of time (but are compulsory so you have no choice). But you can go ahead and try, you might like it

Lol.  I can handle dry because I have some kind of interest in the topic.

What is the assessment like?

Easy H1 so to speak?

I was reading a review and apparently 'Grammar of English' is an easy H1.  Plus I already know half of it which is kind of a bonus.

Also Jean Mulder is meant to be pretty good.

[Russ]

This was the breadth I referred to

https://handbook.unimelb.edu.au/view/2011/UNIB30002

And yes, level refers to difficulty. If you want a frame of reference, level 1 is year 10, level 2 is year 11 and level 3 is year 12. The essays expected of you in year 12 are much more advanced that those expected of you in year 10

[simpak]

Are you sure you want to do a science related breadth?  You could check out some Arts subjects too, it can be nice to have a break from the bulk of your study with something completely different.  Somebody I know and hate does Biomed but also takes a Literature track because it gives him a good break from all the science and maths.

Or maybe I'm just bullshitting around, haha, Arts subjects, those aren't real things.

Linguistics would be good to take, everyone I know who has taken it has really enjoyed it.

Alternatively, if you want an easy H1 do that ridiculous Education subject my friends did.  One wrote an essay about their cat and what it means to them and she got a H1.

[Edmund]

Drugs that shape society is so bad, most of the science stuff is common sense, the other content is so dry and it makes me want to bash my head with a brick. Lectures aren't too bad but tutes are just a waste of time (but are compulsory so you have no choice). But you can go ahead and try, you might like it

Lol.  I can handle dry because I have some kind of interest in the topic.

What is the assessment like?

Easy H1 so to speak?

I was reading a review and apparently 'Grammar of English' is an easy H1.  Plus I already know half of it which is kind of a bonus.

Also Jean Mulder is meant to be pretty good.

I think the assignment was 25% and there's tute attendance and online quizzes worth 15% and the exam worth 60%. All very broad stuff, it's hard to know what they really want. Wasn't easy for me

[Russ]

You could check out some Arts subjects too, it can be nice to have a break from the bulk of your study with something completely different. 

It's also nice when you only have 3 contact hours a subject. Oh god arts is amazing (also my timetable this semester is 12 hours, HAHAHAHHAHAHA)

[vexx]

You could check out some Arts subjects too, it can be nice to have a break from the bulk of your study with something completely different. 

It's also nice when you only have 3 contact hours a subject. Oh god arts is amazing (also my timetable this semester is 12 hours, HAHAHAHHAHAHA)

how?!? mine this semester is like 20+ o-o