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Title: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 09, 2014, 01:29:17 pm
Hi guys :)
I thought it might be cool to see what everyone is studying this year (thanks to nisha's post in the UoM General Chat) and having all the subjects in one place makes it easier for everyone to see what other people are doing/if they share classes!

so guys! What subjects are we doing this year/summer school?
I'm doing:
Finance in the summer
 Sem 2:
1. Reactions and Synthesis (chem subject)
2. Biochemistry
3. Introduction to Life and the universe
4. Consumer behaviour (marketing)

I'm doing:
Summer Semester
- Intermediate Microeconomics

Semester 1
- Romanticism, Feminism and Revolution (English)
- Adaptations and Trangressions (English)
- Modernism and Avant-Garde (English)
- Rebels and Revolutionaries (History)
- Understanding Society (Sociology - Level 1)

Semester 2
- Personality and Social Psychology
- Public Policy Making (Politics)
- Human Rights and Global Justice (Uni Breadth/Politics)
- Globalisation and the World Economy
- Behavioural Economics (Level 3)

Hopefully I'm allowed to overload!
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: vox nihili on January 09, 2014, 01:56:30 pm
so guys! What subjects are we doing this year/summer school?
I'm doing:
Finance in the summer
 Sem 1:
1. Reactions and Synthesis (chem subject)
2. Biochemistry
3. Introduction to Life and the universe
4. Consumer behaviour (marketing)

Summer
Intensive Intermediate Spanish (Spanish 3 and Spanish 4)

Semester 1
Molecular and Cellular Biomedicine (Biochemistry, Cellular Biology, Genetics, Microbiology, Pathology)
Principles of Genetics (Genetics)
Australian Politics (Politics—First Year)

Semester 2
Human Structure and Function (Anatomy, Physiology, Pharmacology)
Microbes, Infections and Responses (Microbiology, Immunology)
Second Language Learning and Teaching (Linguistics, though will probably change this!)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: abcdqdxD on January 09, 2014, 02:04:49 pm
I'm thinking of the following:

Sem 1:
IFA2
Intro Micro
Finance 1
BLaw

Sem 2:
Intro Macro
OB
(another breadth - any suggestions??)
QM1

How does the above sound in terms of workload? Any feedback would be appreciated :)

Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: LeviLamp on January 09, 2014, 02:37:31 pm
I was originally going to be doing Reactions & Synthesis and Structure and Properties this year, but decided to complete a Chem major in a Grad Dip once I finish my main degree so I don't have space constraints, so what I actually have now is:

Summer Semester:
BOTA20004 Flora of Victoria

Semester One:
CEDB20003 Fundamentals of Cell Biology
BCMB20002 Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
GERM20004 German 3
ZOOL20004 Australian Wildlife Biology
ZOOL20005 Animal Structure and Function

Semester Two:
BOTA20002 Plant Biodiversity
ZOOL20006 Comparative Animal Physiology
GERM20005 German 4
ECOL20003 Ecology
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: Ballerina on January 09, 2014, 03:58:20 pm
@nisha, that's a fascinating blend of subjects!
@charmanderp, so disappointed not to see you in cog/bio psych, but wise choice going for that class regardless, it has good reviews.

I have no idea at this point. If I get into Painting Techniques:

Summer: Painting Techniques

First Semester: Human Physiology
Biological Psychology
Research-Based Physiology

Winter: Breadth

Second Semester:
Human Structure and Function
Cognitive Psychology
Comparative Animal Physiology

If I don't:

Summer: Flora of Victoria

First Semester: Human Physiology
Biological Psychology
Breadth

Winter: Painting Techniques

Second Semester:
Principles of Human Structure
Research-Based Physiology
Cognitive Psychology



Is it best to enrol in Research-Based Physio in first or second semester? I wanted to do it in second after having completed the recommended knowledge of Human Physiology, but am concerned that I have less of a chance of being accepted in the second semester due to the quota. It seems better to apply for the first semester as if you don't make the cut in the first, you have a second shot with the second semester.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: Hancock on January 09, 2014, 05:07:28 pm
If Monash has space in their classes:

Semester 1:
Mechanical Dynamics
Mechanics and Materials
3rd Year Aerospace-Subject

Semester 2:
Mechanical Design
Business Finance
3rd Year Aerospace-Subject
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: Shenz0r on January 09, 2014, 11:45:00 pm
so guys! What subjects are we doing this year/summer school?
I'm doing:
Finance in the summer
 Sem 1:
1. Reactions and Synthesis (chem subject)
2. Biochemistry
3. Introduction to Life and the universe
4. Consumer behaviour (marketing)

This year is so full of medical sciences I am loving the sound of it so far but I will probably be killing myself halfway through semester

Semester 1:
Molecular and Cellular Biomedicine (Biochemistry, Cell Biology, Microbiology, Immunology, Pathology, Genetics)
Principles of Genetics
Genetics, Health & Society (breadth)

Semester 2:
Human Structure & Function (Anatomy, Physiology and Pharmacology)
Microbes, Infections and Responses
Pharmacology: How Drugs Work

So much rote-learning for Semester 2 aiya
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: Starlight on January 10, 2014, 01:23:58 am
so guys! What subjects are we doing this year/summer school?
I'm doing:
Finance in the summer
 Sem 1:
1. Reactions and Synthesis (chem subject)
2. Biochemistry
3. Introduction to Life and the universe
4. Consumer behaviour (marketing)

If you thought chem 2 was hard, you ain't seen nothing yet with reactions and synthesis.
As for subjects:

Sem 1- Muscle & Exercise Phys, Neurophys, principles of neuroscience
Breadth: Genetics, health & society

Sem 2- Frontiers in physiology, Visual neuroscience, reproductive phys
Breadth originally body, mind & medicine but hearing from some reviews it's going to be swapped.


First Semester: Human Physiology
Biological Psychology
Breadth

Second Semester:
Principles of Human Structure
Research-Based Physiology
Cognitive Psychology

Is it best to enrol in Research-Based Physio in first or second semester? I wanted to do it in second after having completed the recommended knowledge of Human Physiology, but am concerned that I have less of a chance of being accepted in the second semester due to the quota. It seems better to apply for the first semester as if you don't make the cut in the first, you have a second shot with the second semester.

I don't think you should be too concerned about it being a quota subject. I did RBP in sem 2 along with human phys but I felt that a lot of the other students had knowledge of all the basics with human phys and since they kept their notes, RBP was a breeze. Your timetable looks good as is in terms of human phys and RBP :)


After purchasing the Sem 2 books anyway, the lady at the counter gave me a wistful stare and said "it's so depressing, all that money's just gone..." and patted me on the back

Two words: textbook exchange

A+ story, poor Levi. :( I have all my textbooks because I torrented most of them.

+1

Not keen on physiology because I actually have to understand something applied D:


Human phys and RBP were the best subjects i've ever done :D  :'(
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: Turtle on January 10, 2014, 08:26:31 am
If you thought chem 2 was hard, you ain't seen nothing yet with reactions and synthesis.
As for subjects:

Sem 1- Muscle & Exercise Phys, Neurophys, principles of neuroscience
Breadth originally genetics, health & society but i'm likely to change.

Sem 2- Frontiers in physiology, Visual neuroscience, reproductive phys
Breadth originally body, mind & medicine but hearing from some reviews it's going to be swapped.

Looks like in Sem 1, we will be in 2 subjects together-Muscle & Exercise Phys, and Principles of Neuro
And in Sem 2, I am doing Frontiers too!!

My subjects are:
Sem 1-Muscle and Exercise Phys, Human Locomoter Systems, Principles of Neuroscience, Breadth=Travelling Smarter
Sem 2-Viscera and Visceral systems, Cardiovascular Health, Frontiers in Phys, Breath=undecided

Major=human structure & function

PS. How is the GAMSAT study going El? Awkward turtle if you are not doing the GAMSAT
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: simpak on January 10, 2014, 10:10:32 am
Omg Turtle after you have taken Travelling Smarter can you please review it for the sake of everyone eg me who is just so curious lol.

MY SUBJECTS:
Tissue resident memory T cells, 24/7.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: anazergal on January 10, 2014, 11:48:51 am
some artsies for variety:

summer:
MGMT10002 Managing and Leading Organisations

sem 1:
LING30007 Semantics
LING30012 Language and Identity
PSYC30013 Research Methods for Human Inquiry

sem 2:
LING30001 Exploring Linguistic Diversity
PSYC30014 The Psychopathology of Everyday Life
PSYC30015 Applications in Psychology
PSYC30021 Psychological Science: Theory & Practice
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: hobbitle on January 10, 2014, 12:32:32 pm
S1:
Fundamentals of Chemistry
Engineering Computation
Engineering Mathematics

S2:
Human Physiology
Engineering Mechanics
Chemistry 1 (preferably accelerated to Chemistry 2)

I'm totally pumped for my first introduction to Chemistry...... /solame
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: scribble on January 10, 2014, 01:12:24 pm
chem is actually fun in first year!

what won't be fun is this:
sem1
COMP20005 - Engineering Computation (this subject is going to make me cry)
BCMB20002 - Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
BCMB20005 - Techniques in Molecular Science (given i get in D': )
MAST20009 - Vector Calculus
MAST20004 - Probability

winter
FINA20026 - Painting Techniques

sem2
BMEN30007 - Biocellular Systems Engineering
BCMB30001 - Protein Structure and Function
MAST20030 - Differential Equations
MAST30001 - Stochastic Modelling
FINA10035 - Nature Morte: 21st Century Perspective
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: MelonBar on January 10, 2014, 04:50:06 pm
Semester 1
BCMB20002   Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
BIOL10004   Biology of Cells and Organisms
MUSI20149   Music Psychology
PSYC20008   Developmental Psychology

Semester 2
ANAT20006   Principles of Human Structure
MUSI20150   Music and Health
PHYS20008   Human Physiology
PHYS20009   Research-Based Physiology


Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: LeviLamp on January 10, 2014, 06:33:36 pm
Hi guys :)
I thought it might be cool to see what everyone is studying this year (thanks to nisha's post in the UoM General Chat) and having all the subjects in one place makes it easier for everyone to see what other people are doing/if they share classes!
All subject posts will be added to this post in spoiler tags :)

LeviLamp
Summer Semester
BOTA 20004 Flora of Victoria

Semester One
CEDB20003 Fundamentals of Cell Biology
BCMB20002 Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
GERM20004 German 3
ZOOL20004 Australian Wildlife Biology
ZOOL20005 Animal Structure & Function

Semester Two
BOTA20002 Plant Biodiversity
ZOOL20006 Comparative Animal Physiology
GERM20005 German 4
ECOL20003 Ecology
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: alondouek on January 10, 2014, 06:40:39 pm
Gimme a second, will split some posts here from the general chat thread

Edit: Sorry LL! Could only get it to merge in a chronological order but this should be alright. I'll amend the top post to include your intro post :)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: LeviLamp on January 10, 2014, 06:57:17 pm
I can add all the posts in spoiler tags directly from the old thread to keep it neat but I don't mind at all I'm just really anal-retentive ;u;
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: alondouek on January 10, 2014, 07:03:31 pm
I can add all the posts in spoiler tags directly from the old thread to keep it neat but I don't mind at all I'm just really anal-retentive ;u;

Are you able to do that? If not, I can
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: LeviLamp on January 10, 2014, 07:11:58 pm
Not anymore since my post is no longer at the top but you could reformat charmanderp's post?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: charmanderp on January 10, 2014, 07:14:14 pm
I can add all the posts in spoiler tags directly from the old thread to keep it neat but I don't mind at all I'm just really anal-retentive ;u;
I'm not too sure that having them all in the first post is a good idea - just let users browse through new posts as they come.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: alondouek on January 10, 2014, 07:16:29 pm
I'm not too sure that having them all in the first post is a good idea - just let users browse through new posts as they come.

mm, I think I prefer this haha!
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: litaluta on January 11, 2014, 01:23:50 am
Feb: Painting Techniques (I didnt get any email to say congrats u r in!! but in portal it said all classes registered!hopefully I am in?!)

Sem 1: Biochemistry and Molecular Biology (for dentistry)
            Principles of Microbiology & Immunology (gonna major in microbiology I guessssssss)
            An Ecological History of Humanity ( in subject review topic someone said it's easy. is it? are u sure? help help help)
 
Sem 2: Microbes, Infections and Responses (Ifffffff I was good at dealing with principles of micro)
            Human Physiology (for dentistry)
            Living Longer: A Global Diagnosis (easy? I need some H1 s : ( )
            (((((( GAMSAT PREPARATION ))))))
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Starlight on January 11, 2014, 10:55:56 am
Feb: Painting Techniques (I didnt get any email to say congrats u r in!! but in portal it said all classes registered!hopefully I am in?!)

Sem 1: Biochemistry and Molecular Biology (for dentistry)
            Principles of Microbiology & Immunology (gonna major in microbiology I guessssssss)
            An Ecological History of Humanity ( in subject review topic someone said it's easy. is it? are u sure? help help help)
 
Sem 2: Microbes, Infections and Responses (Ifffffff I was good at dealing with principles of micro)
            Human Physiology (for dentistry)
            Living Longer: A Global Diagnosis (easy? I need some H1 s : ( )
            (((((( GAMSAT PREPARATION ))))))

Living longer is awesome!
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Sinner on January 11, 2014, 04:05:48 pm
It's been a while since I got on here, here we go. The "or"s present alternative options in order of likeliness to quota subjects in case I couldn't get them. The others are pretty much confirmed until possible great changes of heart.

Semester 1

- PHYS20008: Human Physiology
- PATH30001: Mechanisms of Human Disease
- MUSI20149: Music Psychology
- ANAT30007: Human Locomotor Systems
     or MIIM20001: Principles of Microbiology & Immunology
     or GENE20001: Principles of Genetics


Semester 2

- PHYS30008: Frontiers In Physiology
- PHYS30001: Cardiovascular Health: Genes & Hormones
- PATH30003: Frontiers In Human Disease
- ANAT30008: Viscera & Visceral Systems
     or UNIB20013: Body, Mind, and Medicine: A Dissection


Hoping to see you all who are doing the same thing.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Ballerina on January 11, 2014, 04:33:25 pm
Thank you for all your help, El2012!! ♥

Semester 1

- PHYS20008: Human Physiology
Semester 2
ANAT20006   Principles of Human Structure


Hello new best friends
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: JMoxey on January 11, 2014, 06:48:43 pm
Semester 1:
- Design of Algorithms
- Engineering Computation (lol)
- Foundations of Informatics
- Shaping the Enterprise with ICT

Semester 2:
- Object Oriented Software Development
- Finance 1
- Intro Macro
- ESD2
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014 Semester One
Post by: jtvg on January 11, 2014, 10:32:53 pm
I'm thinking of the following:

Sem 1:
IFA2
Intro Micro
Finance 1
BLaw

Sem 2:
Intro Macro
OB
(another breadth - any suggestions??)
QM1

How does the above sound in terms of workload? Any feedback would be appreciated :)

You can do BLAW30002 Taxation Law 1 in your second semester as breadth (prereq: BLAW10001 PBL) so you can give it more focus.

Semester 1
- ACCT30002 Enterprise Performance Management
- ECON20003 QM2
- BLAW20001 Corporate Law
- MGMT20001 OB

Semester 2
- ACCT30001 Financial Accounting Theory
- FNCE30002 Corporate Finance
- Level 3 Commerce


Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: aaackk on January 11, 2014, 11:45:22 pm
my comment didnt get carried over to this new thread.

You can do BLAW30002 Taxation Law 1 in your second semester as breadth (prereq: BLAW10001 PBL) so you can give it more focus.


abcdqdxD should consider doing APA if he wants to fulfil all the first year prerequisite subjects required for the accounting major. IFA and ARA are not the only first year subjects for accounting.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: abcdqdxD on January 12, 2014, 12:47:10 am
my comment didnt get carried over to this new thread.

abcdqdxD should consider doing APA if he wants to fulfil all the first year prerequisite subjects required for the accounting major. IFA and ARA are not the only first year subjects for accounting.

Ahh ok fair enough. How difficult is APA in terms of workload and would you recommend doing a 2nd year accounting subject in semester 2?

Cheers
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: aaackk on January 12, 2014, 12:04:11 pm
I found APA much harder than ARA. I just finished my first year, so i cant say much about second year accounting subjects sorry
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: abcdqdxD on January 12, 2014, 12:08:22 pm
I found APA much harder than ARA. I just finished my first year, so i cant say much about second year accounting subjects sorry

Harder than IFA?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: scribble on January 12, 2014, 12:53:30 pm
Semester 1:
- Design of Algorithms
- Engineering Computation (lol)
- Foundations of Informatics
- Shaping the Enterprise with ICT

Semester 2:
- Object Oriented Software Development
- Finance 1
- Intro Macro
- ESD2

LOL engcomp before esd2?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: jtvg on January 12, 2014, 01:07:50 pm
Harder than IFA?

APA > ARA > IFA but that's just me :/
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: abcdqdxD on January 12, 2014, 01:09:20 pm
APA > ARA > IFA but that's just me :/

LOL IFA was 1000x harder than ARA for me :P
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 12, 2014, 01:12:56 pm

LOL engcomp before esd2?

I've been taking a few subjects where I don't have the 'recommended prerequisites'... It's easy enough to catch up on if you're motivated. You do have a slight disadvantage though.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Hancock on January 12, 2014, 03:53:51 pm
Recommended pre-reqs are usually bull. I did 3 third year classes without the 'recommended pre-reqs' and did fine. Just make sure that you read anything that comes up on lectures that confused you, and ask some mates in the class if you've learnt it in a prior class.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Hancock on January 12, 2014, 03:54:42 pm
BTW, Eng Comp shouldn't even have ESD2 as a recommended pre-req. It's got nothing in common with it at all. You should be peachy hobbitle!
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vcestudent94 on January 12, 2014, 04:26:47 pm
BTW, Eng Comp shouldn't even have ESD2 as a recommended pre-req. It's got nothing in common with it at all. You should be peachy hobbitle!
Really? No annoying matlab scripts to write?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 12, 2014, 04:33:15 pm

Really? No annoying matlab scripts to write?

You learn C++ in Eng Comp. So yeah you still write code (scripts) but it's not exactly the same language as Matlab.
Title: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 12, 2014, 04:34:04 pm
BTW, Eng Comp shouldn't even have ESD2 as a recommended pre-req. It's got nothing in common with it at all. You should be peachy hobbitle!

Haha thanks Hancock, I'm not worried, programming is actually one of my stronger suits!

Even some of the actual prerequisites for some subjects are a bit BS. A lot are valid but some are overkill.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Hancock on January 12, 2014, 05:33:07 pm
You learn C++ in Eng Comp. So yeah you still write code (scripts) but it's not exactly the same language as Matlab.

You learn C in Eng Comp actually, C++ is an OO language that comp sci students learn I think. Pre-reqs are there to encourage linear motion through a degree I think. While you can take 3rd year Electrical and Mechanical in 2nd year if you play your cards right, I think they (as in the administration) prefer if you take it in the order they prescribe.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: JMoxey on January 12, 2014, 09:59:32 pm
Recommended pre-reqs are usually bull. I did 3 third year classes without the 'recommended pre-reqs' and did fine. Just make sure that you read anything that comes up on lectures that confused you, and ask some mates in the class if you've learnt it in a prior class.

Haha, I'm only doing Eng Comp for credit points... Already done Foundations of Algorithms which has massive overlap with Eng Comp, therefore I don't need ESD2 haha. ESD2 is just to fill credit points too. I wanted to do Discrete Structures, but that got discontinued this year along with several other comp sci subjects.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Turtle on January 13, 2014, 03:51:25 am
It's been a while since I got on here, here we go. The "or"s present alternative options in order of likeliness to quota subjects in case I couldn't get them. The others are pretty much confirmed until possible great changes of heart.

Semester 1

- PHYS20008: Human Physiology
- PATH30001: Mechanisms of Human Disease
- MUSI20149: Music Psychology
- ANAT30007: Human Locomotor Systems
     or MIIM20001: Principles of Microbiology & Immunology
     or GENE20001: Principles of Genetics


Semester 2

- PHYS30008: Frontiers In Physiology
- PHYS30001: Cardiovascular Health: Genes & Hormones
- PATH30001: Frontiers In Human Disease
- ANAT30008: Viscera & Visceral Systems
     or UNIB20013: Body, Mind, and Medicine: A Dissection


Hoping to see you all who are doing the same thing.

Sinner it looks like we are going to have loads of subjects together!
Especially in semester 2!!
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: dilks on January 13, 2014, 06:57:21 am
You learn C in Eng Comp actually, C++ is an OO language that comp sci students learn I think.

I don't think we do C++ (for comp sci) either, our OO language is Java.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: abcdqd on January 13, 2014, 03:11:11 pm
I'm thinking

Sem 1:
Intro Micro
Organisational Behaviour
AM 1
French 3

Sem 2:
Intro Macro
Intro to Actuarial Studies
AM 2
French 4

Not too sure about Organisational Behaviour... would it be fine to dive into a team-work based level 2 subject in my first semester at uni?
If I don't do OB in Sem 1 I want to replace it with Business Finance, but that has AM 1 (which I'll be doing at the same time) as a pre-req.... how lenient will they be with this?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: lzxnl on January 13, 2014, 03:50:12 pm
OK, so after some consideration I've come up with this:

Sem 1

Chemistry: Reactions and Synthesis
Accelerated Maths 1
Biology of Cells and Organisms
Biochemistry and Molecular Biology

Sem 2

Chemistry: Structure and Properties
Accelerated Maths 2
Genetics and the Evolution of Life
Principles of Business Law


this is only if the university says that Practical Chemistry isn't essential
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 13, 2014, 05:53:27 pm
I'm thinking

Sem 1:
Intro Micro
Organisational Behaviour
AM 1
French 3

Sem 2:
Intro Macro
Intro to Actuarial Studies
AM 2
French 4

Not too sure about Organisational Behaviour... would it be fine to dive into a team-work based level 2 subject in my first semester at uni?
If I don't do OB in Sem 1 I want to replace it with Business Finance, but that has AM 1 (which I'll be doing at the same time) as a pre-req.... how lenient will they be with this?
Plenty of people do OB in their first year. I'd recommend doing it second semester normally, but since you can't fit it in to Sem 2 with your current plan, and you've done UMEP Accounting so you already have a good idea of how uni classes work, it should be fine regarding team work (DAE SYNTAX).
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Ballerina on January 13, 2014, 08:54:45 pm
AhhHHhhHHhHhhhH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS~!

 The February class Painting Techniques unexpectedly released 72 further places this morning at 10 AM, due to overwhelmingly popular demand. I wasn't accepted last week as it depended on whoever registered first, and the spots were taken in under a minute. This morning I tried to enroll in every stream, but was all positions were taken until the last stream; stream 12. All in under a minute, again. Barely scraped in.

Which means I can still take 3 subjects per a semester without taking the other February class, Flora of Victoria, and won't need to use a science credit on botany. TO HELL WITH PLANTS, DIE IN A FIRE. (Sorry, LeviLamp.)

For what it's worth, the registration material for Flora of Victoria was actually fascinating, the field trips sounded exciting and the class seems excellently managed and highly regarded. But like...plants.

Feb: Painting Techniques (I didnt get any email to say congrats u r in!! but in portal it said all classes registered!hopefully I am in?!)



hay study buddy
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: alondouek on January 13, 2014, 09:15:04 pm
TO HELL WITH PLANTS, DIE IN A FIRE. (Sorry, LeviLamp.)

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Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: abcdqdxD on January 13, 2014, 09:45:10 pm
Any easy first year breadth recommendations for B.Com students?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: lzxnl on January 13, 2014, 10:10:20 pm
Well...you have the worlds of science and music available to you for starters...and that's not including arts subjects either.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Leronziia on January 13, 2014, 10:43:29 pm
I'll be taking MCB, Principles of genetics and Arabic 3 and then HSF, Microbes and Arabic 4  :)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 14, 2014, 09:04:28 am
Semester 1:
Fundamentals of Chemistry (excited)
Engineering Computation (excited)
Engineering Mathematics (going to kick my ass)

Semester 2:
Chemistry 2 (hopefully)
Engineering Mechanics (also going to kick my ass)
Physiology (excited)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: clueless123 on January 16, 2014, 05:27:41 pm
Summer:
Finance 1

Sem 1 :
Intermediate Microeconomics
Introductory Econometrics
Organisational behaviour
Management decision analysis

Sem 2 :
Intermediate Macroeconomics
Business Finance
Competition & Strategy
Management consulting /Human rights & global justice / Some random subject . . .
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 16, 2014, 05:45:56 pm
Summer:
Finance 1

Sem 1 :
Intermediate Microeconomics
Introductory Econometrics
Organisational behaviour
Management decision analysis

Sem 2 :
Intermediate Macroeconomics
Business Finance
Competition & Strategy
Management consulting /Human rights & global justice / Some random subject . . .
Management Consulting seems like the greatest subject of all time, no joke. I wish it was available as breadth!

I'll be doing HR&GJ, so excited for it. Comp and Strat is really tempting too...
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vox nihili on January 16, 2014, 05:49:45 pm
Was thinking about changing politics for Spanish 5, but was deterred by the fact that I already bought the textbook and don't want to waste money. Get an e-mail today "we put up the wrong text book, soz guys". fml.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: jtvg on January 16, 2014, 11:23:12 pm
Sem 1 :
Intermediate Microeconomics
Introductory Econometrics
Organisational behaviour
Management decision analysis

I am torn between Intro Econometrics vs QM2 for Semester 1 :/
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: sluu001 on January 16, 2014, 11:31:54 pm
Take metrics, much more interesting subject.   :)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Ballerina on January 17, 2014, 08:52:04 pm
I have a question for you smart cookies. Should my second year plan be:
Spoiler

FIRST CHOICE
First Semester

Painting Techniques
Human Physiology
Biological Psychology
Comparative Nutrition and Digestion

Second Semester

Principles of Human Structure
Research-based Physiology
Cognitive Psychology
Sex: Science and the Community

PROS:

Human Physiology is recommended background knowledge for research-based physiology, so doing it first maximizes my marks.
Comparative Nutrition and Digestion sounds fascinated; I'd be scintillated. I found one person who did it and found it 'okay'.

CONS:

Both Research-based Physiology and Principles of Human Structure are quota subjects. If I leave them until second semester instead of applying for both first and second semester, there's an unknown chance of not being selected. I definitely don't want classes other than these, and they're part of the recommended knowledge for several third year classes.
Comparative Nutrition and Digestion is a DASC subject, and there are many bad reviews regarding DASC and Agriculture classes.
I'm not in a class with LeviLamp.

DON'T KNOW IF PRO OR CON:
No labs all year.
...I want to be a researcher so I should probably stop being terrified of labs.

SECOND CHOICE

First Semester
Painting Techniques
Human Physiology
Biological Psychology
Principles of Human Structure

Second Semester

Comparative Animal Physiology
Research-based Physiology
Cognitive Psychology
Sex: Science and the Community


PROS:

The DASC subject has been removed, and DASC subjects have gotten a few bad reviews (though I've yet to hear any complains regarding Comparative Nutrition and Digestion).
The subject which replaced it ^ is Comparative Animal Physiology, which is a Recommended Background Knowledge subject for several of my third year subjects.
Comparative Animal Physiology has received many excellent reviews, from multiple sources.
I have a better chance of being selected for one of my quota subjects.
I'm in a class with LeviLamp. ♥

CONS:

I'm not interested in Comparative Animal Physiology, and even less compared to the nutrition class sacrificed.
DASC subjects are apparently a little easier than usual science credits.

DON'T KNOW IF PRO OR CON:

I have one class with labs this year due to Comparative Animal Physiology, and I really need to be comfortable in a lab environment due to wanting research experience over the holidays, and research through the postgraduate route. But when I'm in a laboratory I'm adamant I will break everything and start a fire.

Now that it's written out, I guess the choice is obvious. oh god I just don't want to make anything in the laboratory explode
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: simpak on January 18, 2014, 11:00:11 pm
Idk if this will influence your decision but without second year lab work you can kiss your hopes of a UROP placement goodbye...if that's something you're wanting to do.

I'd do the one with the labs but on the other hand you said you're not interested in that subject and I always think people should choose stuff they're interested in...what about another lab subject that isn't that one?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: nisha on January 19, 2014, 12:25:30 am
Summer:
Finance 1

Sem 1 :
Intermediate Microeconomics
Introductory Econometrics
Organisational behaviour
Management decision analysis

Sem 2 :
Intermediate Macroeconomics
Business Finance
Competition & Strategy
Management consulting /Human rights & global justice / Some random subject . . .
Mayt I'm doing Finance too! HOW GOOD IS IT. Also we can study together

To the person that asked for an easy Comm subject I suggest Principles of Marketing. I am planning on going in the marketing field because I loved the subject sooooo much. You listen in lectures and write notes, write well and can analyse language...you are good. Also the final exams essays need literally no structure so I just wrote bullet points and pictures and arrows...it was like a giant brainstorm!

Also. Why is Reactions if Synthesis worse than Chem 2? And has anyone actually done well in the sub? I'm planning on doing a Chem major...:/
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 19, 2014, 04:27:46 am
Idk if this will influence your decision but without second year lab work you can kiss your hopes of a UROP placement goodbye...if that's something you're wanting to do.

I thought Anatomy was a lab subject...?  I don't know these things... simpak what defines a lab subject?  I need to heed that advice too...

Also can someone explain what DASC means please please?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Russ on January 19, 2014, 08:21:12 am
A subject where you have to learn how to use a lab bench etc. as part of the prac. Doesn't happen in anatomy because all you do there is go into the anatomy lab and look at prosections/cadavers, there's not any actual investigation or similar.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: LeviLamp on January 19, 2014, 08:29:04 am
DASC = Domestic Animal Science.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 19, 2014, 08:33:06 am
Thanks Russ and Levi. Russ, is there a way to tell which subjects are lab subjects from the handbook, or do they all just say 'prac'? And were, for example, 1st year Biology (BIOL10004/5), lab subjects?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Russ on January 19, 2014, 08:50:46 am
It's not really a formal thing as far as I know, it's just a commonly used term. Eg 'techniques in X' is a lab subject because they make you learn about the lab and use it, but I don't think it has anything unique on the handbook
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 19, 2014, 08:51:11 am
Okay I thought so, cheers.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: simpak on January 19, 2014, 09:26:40 am
Biology in first year probably won't be included because you don't really learn how to use the techniques/equipment you would in a UROP placement (not that you often would in a second year lab subject it just seems better)...I only did one in second year and I was 'okay' but people with more lab experience/more prac subjects on their transcript were definitely ahead of me since I essentially got a 'second round' offer.  They value it very highly!

Do you have any in your study plan for 2014 at the moment hobbitle?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 19, 2014, 09:48:49 am
Do you have any in your study plan for 2014 at the moment hobbitle?

Ehhh... trying to do an 'engineering' major whilst trying to get lab experience and having to max out Level 1 subjects because I had no science prerequisites is making my study plan organisation hell.  Add to that the mistake of not taking a Chemistry stream in first year and I'm basically a full year behind.

If anybody feels like taking a look and offering suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it.  I've decided to drop Physiology and Anatomy even though I'd LOVE to take them and they keep the MD open, but I just can't fit everything in.  This study plan excludes 4 breadths as I already have advanced standing for them.

Spoiler
2013
First Year, Semester 1

L1: Biology of Cells & Organisms
L1: Calculus 1

First Year, Semester 2
L1: Linear Algebra
L1:Calculus 2
L1: Genetics & Evolution of Life
L1: ESD 2

2014
Second Year, Semester 1

L1: Fundamentals of Chemistry
L2: Engineering Computation (compulsory for major)
L2: Engineering Mathematics (compulsory for major)

Second Year, Semester 2
L1: Chemistry 2 (hopefully accellerated...)
L2: Engineering Mechanics (not compulsory for major, but a useful Engineering subject)
L3: Biocellular Systems Engineering (CORE)

2015
Third Year, Semester 1

L2: Biochemistry & Molecular Biology (finally.... urgh)
L3: Molecular Aspects of Cell Biology (not core, but I love the content)
L3: Introduction to Biomechanics (CORE)
L3: Fundamentals of Biosignals (CORE)

Third Year, Semester 2
L3: Stem Cells in Development & Regeneration (not core, again just interested)
L3: Biosystems Design (CORE)
L2: Pathology - Exploring Human Disease (for interests sake)
L2/L3: Slot open for whatever....

It was a poor, poor decision to end up behind in Chemistry but when I started the course I was just going to do the prerequisites for the Masters and transfer straight in to it.  Then I changed my mind and wanted to do the whole Undergraduate but by that stage it was too late to pick up Fundamentals of Chemistry.

Subjects that can perhaps swapped for something else are Engineering Mechanics, Pathology, anything 'not core', and there's obviously that open L2/L3 slot.  It's all well and good as a study plan but basically kills any chance I have of applying for UROP as all those heavier lab-type subjects are coming up too late in my degree.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: clueless123 on January 19, 2014, 12:00:17 pm
I'll be doing HR&GJ, so excited for it. Comp and Strat is really tempting too...
Game theory ftw! Yea the HR subject seems pretty cool too, might see you in it if management rejects me haha

Mayt I'm doing Finance too! HOW GOOD IS IT. Also we can study together
Ikr, I think I'm gna major in it. And cool a study buddy :D
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: simpak on January 19, 2014, 10:52:38 pm
hobbitle I think you could still be okay for placement considering your interest is in biomedical engineering and that's a little different to many of the other people that are more interested in classical life sciences majors like cell biology, neuroscience, immunology, etc.  Your study plan looks majorly full to me so if you are asked why you're not taking lab subjects you can just explain that you don't have room for that with your engineering prereqs and I feel like that's a legit excuse.  It is a bit different for someone who does a life sciences major but avoids pracs...

But yeah I think it's okay!  Don't give up hope - biomedical engineering is kind of a different BALL GAME in UROP because it kind of lumps in with those 'we don't take many of these students into our program' category with maths and physics.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: MelonBar on January 19, 2014, 11:16:04 pm
anyone care to comment on unib10003 an ecological history of humanity?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Sinner on January 20, 2014, 03:37:38 am
anyone care to comment on unib10003 an ecological history of humanity?

There are a couple reviews about it in the Subject Review thread.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 20, 2014, 04:20:36 am

hobbitle I think you could still be okay for placement considering your interest is in biomedical engineering

Thanks simpak for your super kind and encouraging words :-) I will definitely still apply all three times I can for UROP - it's all I can do! x
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 20, 2014, 10:54:43 am
Game theory ftw! Yea the HR subject seems pretty cool too, might see you in it if management rejects me haha
I love game theory. Took a workshop on it while in high school which is what motivated me to study economics at university.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Ballerina on January 20, 2014, 01:32:29 pm
Ehhh... trying to do an 'engineering' major whilst trying to get lab experience and having to m

If anybody feels like taking a look and offering suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it.

Wow. You are quite the polymath. The bio aspects of our study plans are polar opposites; yours focuses on the cellular level while mine looks at the wider picture (anatomy, organ systems, etc). I admire those who are capable of the abstract thinking that cell biology requires.

Idk if this will influence your decision but without second year lab work you can kiss your hopes of a UROP placement goodbye...if that's something you're wanting to do.

I'd do the one with the labs but on the other hand you said you're not interested in that subject and I always think people should choose stuff they're interested in...what about another lab subject that isn't that one?

Really valuable point, thank you for mentioning it! Today is the last day I can change due to the amount of quota subjects in my study plan (quota deadline is the 22nd and I need waivers due to my transfer).

This morning I was going to email for a waiver regarding Comparative Animal Physiology and enrol. Contact with the  coordinator of Comparative Nutrition and Digestion has been unreliable. They haven't even bothered putting up the textbook list for the class. And I sgfdksjfgi love the laboratory when I'm actually in one. It's pre-practical where I'm nervous I'll burn the building to the ground. I become nervous because I love and overvalue it. I definitely don't love exams and consequently/strangely are less nervous about my performance in them. That's despite having never actually broken, dropped, etc anything in the lab...BUT THAT JUST MEANS MY TIME IS NIGH.

However, I just can't muster enthusiasm for Animal Physio's content. I wouldn't have the stamina to concentrate and the poorer grade would likely affect my UROP chances as well. I'll take a fourth look at the second year science credits, but most of what I like is third year and I may be better off taking a short course in lab techniques over the summer (which I was contemplating doing for fun regardless).  Ughh I'm literally sadder that I won't be in a class with LeviLamp, over potentially missing out on UROP. And UROP is amazing.

On the plus side, taking Comparative Nutrition and Digestion over Comparative Animal Physio means an exam worth 15% less lols. And I think I'll probably slide into the quota subjects despite leaving them until semester 2, as my first year average is a H1. I think. I hope.  :o
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: clueless123 on January 20, 2014, 07:32:37 pm
I love game theory. Took a workshop on it while in high school which is what motivated me to study economics at university.

Are you also majoring in Eco along with English? Or just taking some micro?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 20, 2014, 07:36:26 pm
Are you also majoring in Eco along with English? Or just taking some micro?
Intro Micro and Macro, Inter Micro and then a bunch of economics electives. Ain't got enough credit points or patience to major in Econ.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Stick on January 20, 2014, 08:35:06 pm
Heh, I guess that I can finally share my subject "choices" now that I've enrolled (not that they're a surprise - it's first year Biomedicine we're talking here).

Semester 1

Semester 2

I just sat my online placement test for Italian this evening... That was pretty much the hardest LOTE assessment I've ever done in my life. I'm being serious when I say that more than half of my test was incorrect or left blank, so I'm a little bit flummoxed as to how I even managed to get Italian 3 (which is the level I am supposed to enter at given my prior knowledge). Throughout the whole ordeal I was just thinking "Oh God I've just fucked this up and I'm not going to even get Italian 3 anymore." XD I haven't studied the language for over 12 months now so I was incredibly rusty; despite my initial doubts, I don't think studying for it would have made any difference whatsoever. :|

To anyone who needs to sit an online placement test for a LOTE and is yet to do so - it's going to be a bit of a challenge so good luck. And don't even think about cheating since the formatting of each task is incredibly clever. There's really not much you can do at all.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 20, 2014, 08:41:48 pm
I'm a little bit flummoxed as to how I even managed to get Italian 3 (which is the level I am supposed to enter at given my prior knowledge).
Uni's pretty chill like that.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on January 20, 2014, 09:59:22 pm

Wow. You are quite the polymath. The bio aspects of our study plans are polar opposites; yours focuses on the cellular level while mine looks at the wider picture (anatomy, organ systems, etc). I admire those who are capable of the abstract thinking that cell biology requires
I absolutely adore cellular and molecular level biology ... For me it's the best part.... It's just incredible.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Shenz0r on January 20, 2014, 10:24:29 pm
  • PHYC10007 Physics for Biomedicine

Hahahahahahahahahaha, you're going to love this subject. Seriously. Easiest and best subject ever.

fidsjfuhfghwecoughcoughcfhisudhfyw
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vox nihili on January 20, 2014, 10:25:59 pm
I just sat my online placement test for Italian this evening... That was pretty much the hardest LOTE assessment I've ever done in my life. I'm being serious when I say that more than half of my test was incorrect or left blank, so I'm a little bit flummoxed as to how I even managed to get Italian 3 (which is the level I am supposed to enter at given my prior knowledge). Throughout the whole ordeal I was just thinking "Oh God I've just fucked this up and I'm not going to even get Italian 3 anymore." XD I haven't studied the language for over 12 months now so I was incredibly rusty; despite my initial doubts, I don't think studying for it would have made any difference whatsoever. :|

To anyone who needs to sit an online placement test for a LOTE and is yet to do so - it's going to be a bit of a challenge so good luck. And don't even think about cheating since the formatting of each task is incredibly clever. There's really not much you can do at all.

They're trying to get us to sit one for Spanish, just for "fun". Piss off hahah
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: ~T on January 20, 2014, 10:34:22 pm
Semester 1

Semester 2


YAY MATHS ^.^
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: simpak on January 21, 2014, 12:40:06 am
Thanks simpak for your super kind and encouraging words :-) I will definitely still apply all three times I can for UROP - it's all I can do! x

If it were possible to recommend people I would recommend all of you guys ie Ballerina as well!  I wish it were possible!
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 21, 2014, 10:31:58 am
This thread is getting a tiny bit off track. Let's just limit it to subject selections.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: 12AM on January 25, 2014, 12:56:47 pm
Semester 1

Semester 2
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 25, 2014, 03:50:12 pm
Semester 1
  • MAST10005 - Calculus 1
  • PHYC10005 - Physics 1: Fundamentals
  • COMP10001 - Foundations of Computing
  • ECON10004 - Introductory Microeconomics

Semester 2
  • MAST10006 - Calculus 2
  • PHYC10004 - Physics 2: Physical Science & Technology
  • COMP10002 - Foundations of Algorithms
  • FNCE10001 - Finance 1
If I were you I'd probably do Intro Macro semester 2, and then Finance 1 during summer semester.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: 12AM on January 25, 2014, 05:07:40 pm
If I were you I'd probably do Intro Macro semester 2, and then Finance 1 during summer semester.

Can I ask why you'd suggest that?  :)

Also, I was planning on taking Linear Algebra over the summer semester.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 25, 2014, 07:01:07 pm
Can I ask why you'd suggest that?  :)

Also, I was planning on taking Linear Algebra over the summer semester.
Because Intro Macro is a great subject. Most of what I've heard about Finance 1 suggests it's pretty bludgy, and that you could learn most of it from a textbook, and I think Macro would be much more valuable. Also, you can do two subjects over summer semester, if need be.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Tadpole on January 25, 2014, 10:55:31 pm
Assuming I get my waiver for maths (which I'm kinda worried about, seriously rusty  :-\)
Semester 1
BIOL10004 Biology of Cells and Organisms
CHEM10007 - Fundamentals of Chemistry
MAST10006 Calculus 2
GERM10006 German 5

BIOL10005 - Genetics & The Evolution of Life
ENGR10003 - Engineering Systems Design 2
MAST10007 - Linear Algebra
GERM 10007 German 6

I'm assuming/hoping that this will allow me to go for the Bioengineering Systems major, at least the subjects required in the second year.
On a side note, not quite sure about the whole placement thing, it said I'm going to enter at German entry point 5, but I've only studied the language for 6 months (admittedly intensively), and I screwed up the whole reading section by writing down dotpoints (in the process ruining the back of my TFN sheet  :o) rather than reading it as quick as possible.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: jono88 on January 25, 2014, 11:11:46 pm
Semester 1
Chemistry 1
Engineering Systems Design 1
Calculus 2

Semester 2
Chemistry 2
Engineering Systems Design 2
Linear Algebra

I'm not sure if i should do 2 breadths or BIOL10004 Biology of Cells and Organisms and BIOL10005 - Genetics & The Evolution of Life with no breadths. Advice please! :3
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: LeviLamp on January 25, 2014, 11:16:49 pm
What's your planned major?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: jono88 on January 25, 2014, 11:19:26 pm
Either bioengineering systems, chemical systems or pharmacology.
BIOL10004 Biology of Cells and Organisms is a required subject so i think i'll take that one and a breadth.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: spalvains on January 26, 2014, 12:00:37 am
Semester 1
Molecular Aspects of Cell Biology
Concepts in Cell and Developmental Biology
Animal Behaviour
Music Theatre: Singing Rock Musicals

Semester 2
Cell Signalling and Neurochemistry
Developmental Biology (assuming I get into it, otherwise it'll be Developmental Neurobiology)
Protein Structure and Function
Choir 2 (or the second theatre subject... any bludgy music subject will do)

Oh man, I've been waiting for third year, so many good subjects to choose from!
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vox nihili on January 26, 2014, 12:08:13 am
Semester 1
Molecular Aspects of Cell Biology
Concepts in Cell and Developmental Biology
Animal Behaviour
Music Theatre: Singing Rock Musicals

Semester 2
Cell Signalling and Neurochemistry
Developmental Biology (assuming I get into it, otherwise it'll be Developmental Neurobiology)
Protein Structure and Function
Choir 2 (or the second theatre subject... any bludgy music subject will do)

Oh man, I've been waiting for third year, so many good subjects to choose from!


So why didn't you choose them? haha only kidding!

That looks tough, what's the major? :)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: LeviLamp on January 26, 2014, 02:57:51 am
Someone else doing zoology subjects! :D Looking at that, are you doing a Cell and Developmental Biology major?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: scribble on January 26, 2014, 11:51:10 am
yey i'm doing protein structure and function in second semester too! ^^ (Y)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: spalvains on January 26, 2014, 06:31:49 pm
Someone else doing zoology subjects! :D Looking at that, are you doing a Cell and Developmental Biology major?

Yep, with an Animal Cell Biology specialisation. Well done on picking it, so many people at uni I've talked to have never heard of the C&DB major, it must be one of the less popular ones. Also, good choice with CEDB20003, it was one of my favourite subjects in second year, hence my major :)

So why didn't you choose them? haha only kidding!

You sound like a lot of my friends haha, they think I'm crazy for voluntarily picking Protein S&F.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vox nihili on January 26, 2014, 07:08:10 pm
You sound like a lot of my friends haha, they think I'm crazy for voluntarily picking Protein S&F.

It sounds like it's fooling everyone. Protein structure in highschool, easy as pie... uni woah
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: LeviLamp on January 26, 2014, 08:05:22 pm
What do they say is wrong with Protein S&F? D: I had that down as a strong contender for a third-year elective, but if there are issues with it I might choose something else instead (since there are so many things to choose from D; ).
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: spalvains on January 26, 2014, 09:02:14 pm
What do they say is wrong with Protein S&F? D: I had that down as a strong contender for a third-year elective, but if there are issues with it I might choose something else instead (since there are so many things to choose from D; ).
Oh no, that was coming from zoology/ecology majors, who freak out at the thought of anything biochem related and think I'm weird for finding it interesting, haha. On the other hand, I'm fond of the biochem department, the two second year subjects (Biochem & Mol Bio and Biochemical Regulation of Cell Function) were really well organised, so I have high hopes for Protein S&F. I haven't actually heard any feedback from the subject itself - if anyone reading this has done it, I would appreciate a review! :)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: rery on January 26, 2014, 09:08:24 pm
Has anyone here done BCMB30004 Cell Signalling & Neurochemistry?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Tammx3 on January 27, 2014, 05:58:38 pm
What do you guys think of this? I'm doing a bachelor of arts, and I know I definitely want to do a psych major, but I'm still tossing up between whether I want to do another major, or 2 minors, in philosophy, creative writing or criminology. So for now, does it seem like a good idea to do these subjects?

Spoiler
Semester 1:
- Language (Arts foundation subject)
- Mind, Body, Behaviour 1 (Psych)
- Creative Writing: Ideas and Practice
- From Graffiti to Terrorism (Criminology)

Semester 2:
- Mind, Body, Behaviour 2 (Psych)
- Philosophy: The Big Questions
- Breadth: ?
- Breadth: ? 

All these subjects satisfy the requirements for level 1, to achieve either a major, or minor, in those 4 subjects...
Sorry if this is too long.. Also, any suggestions for breadth?

Hopefully someone knows about this, since I've only really seen BSc and biomed people on here.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Russ on January 27, 2014, 06:47:47 pm
I liked Short Fiction much more than Ideas and Practice (in general), consider doing that in sem2 over a breadth
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: aaackk on January 27, 2014, 07:18:13 pm
how do i unenrol in something?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on January 27, 2014, 07:27:30 pm
how do i unenrol in something?

1) go into Uni portal
log in then go to this link : https://my.unimelb.edu.au/studentportal/faces/StudentAdmin/Enrollment/WithdrawFromASubject
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: blank on January 27, 2014, 09:25:52 pm
has any one done pharmacology and microbes in the same sem (only offered in sem 2)? im more interested in pharm major but microbes is a prereq for a few majors and I want to keep my options open...would it be too full on?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: aaackk on January 27, 2014, 11:16:42 pm
1) go into Uni portal
log in then go to this link : https://my.unimelb.edu.au/studentportal/faces/StudentAdmin/Enrollment/WithdrawFromASubject

thanks, took me ages to find it lol, used to be able to access from within the study plan itself.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 28, 2014, 10:02:08 am
I liked Short Fiction much more than Ideas and Practice (in general), consider doing that in sem2 over a breadth
Writing for Screen is also a lot of fun. A lot.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Shenz0r on January 29, 2014, 07:56:26 pm
has any one done pharmacology and microbes in the same sem (only offered in sem 2)? im more interested in pharm major but microbes is a prereq for a few majors and I want to keep my options open...would it be too full on?

I'M DOING THAT HAHAHA GOING TO DIE

the rote-learning seems really full-on

not sure if PHRM20001 is a pre-req for the pharm major though
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: blank on January 29, 2014, 11:15:58 pm
LOL SHENZ0R didnt think you were that crazy...haha! and I think I read somewhere that pharm major doesnt have 2nd pre-reqs.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: sameeehh on January 31, 2014, 06:31:27 pm
Semester 1

-Calculus 2
-Physics 1
- ______
-Intro Microeconomics

Semester 2

-ESD 2
-Linear Algebra
-Physics 2
-(Breadth)

Anyone got suggestions on what i can do during semester 1 ? Looking to major in some sort of engineering (electrical in mind).
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 31, 2014, 06:34:56 pm
Semester 1

-Calculus 2
-Physics 1
- ______
-Intro Microeconomics

Semester 2

-ESD 2
-Linear Algebra
-Physics 2
-(Breadth)

Anyone got suggestions on what i can do during semester 1 ? Looking to major in some sort of engineering (electrical in mind).
ESD 1?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: sameeehh on January 31, 2014, 06:42:40 pm
ESD 1?

Plz , no. Read the subject review and nobody likes it whatsoever.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 31, 2014, 06:49:35 pm
Plz , no. Read the subject review and nobody likes it whatsoever.
Fair enough. I'd say to probably do Chem 1 then. Great subject, very well organised, and I think it's always good to expand your expertise, whether that be in science, arts, commerce, etc.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: sameeehh on January 31, 2014, 07:00:07 pm
Fair enough. I'd say to probably do Chem 1 then. Great subject, very well organised, and I think it's always good to expand your expertise, whether that be in science, arts, commerce, etc.

I absolutely despise chemistry for some odd reason. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on January 31, 2014, 07:07:51 pm
I absolutely despise chemistry for some odd reason. I'm sorry.
Don't know why you're apologising to me, it's your loss :P

Maybe Foundations of Computing, or some other first year IT subject?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: scribble on January 31, 2014, 08:13:37 pm
you could move linear algebra to first semester since it really doesnt require any calc2 knowledge at all and take engmath in sem 2. you only are required to take 5 first year sciences after all. :) and that allows you to take more engineering related second and third year subjects overall.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Sinner on February 02, 2014, 01:48:08 am
I absolutely despise chemistry for some odd reason. I'm sorry.

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Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: sameeehh on February 02, 2014, 10:07:52 pm
you could move linear algebra to first semester since it really doesnt require any calc2 knowledge at all and take engmath in sem 2. you only are required to take 5 first year sciences after all. :) and that allows you to take more engineering related second and third year subjects overall.

Would the stress/workload of Linear Algebra & Calc 2 in 1st Semester be too much ? And is Engineering Math going to make me cry ?
Otherwise i would srsly consider it. I don't want to die first year.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on February 02, 2014, 10:33:57 pm
Would the stress/workload of Linear Algebra & Calc 2 in 1st Semester be too much ? And is Engineering Math going to make me cry ?
Otherwise i would srsly consider it. I don't want to die first year.

I did Lin Alg and Calc 2 in the same semester (along with biology and ESD2) and it was fine.  And I'm not naturally gifted at maths.  I put in a lot of hours though.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: scribble on February 03, 2014, 12:07:17 am
im not gonna say it'll be a small workload, but it shouldn't be too unmanageable.

eng math i dont think should be too bas either :S
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Hehetymen on February 03, 2014, 02:00:32 pm
I did Lin Alg and Calc 2 in the same semester (along with biology and ESD2) and it was fine.  And I'm not naturally gifted at maths.  I put in a lot of hours though.

Maths notevenonce.

Certainly not twice.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: FunkyAfrican on February 03, 2014, 07:36:13 pm
Semester 1

- Intro Macro
- Quantitative Methods 1
- Accounting Reports & Analysis
- Arabic 1
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Deleted User on February 05, 2014, 11:00:38 pm
Can anyone recommend me a Sem 1, non-commerce, non-math level 2 breadth? Preferably one that has low contact hours and doesn't have marks awarded for tutorial participation
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: LeviLamp on February 05, 2014, 11:22:07 pm
Genetics, Health and Society is supposed to be insanely easy?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Oilerian on February 06, 2014, 10:27:47 pm
Guys, I was just browsing here when I saw someone mentioning EDS1. :o I know I have to register to ask.

Is it actually compulsory for those who are interested in engineering? Or whether you can just skip it?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on February 06, 2014, 10:39:27 pm
Guys, I was just browsing here when I saw someone mentioning EDS1. :o I know I have to register to ask.

Is it actually compulsory for those who are interested in engineering? Or whether you can just skip it?
Not compulsory.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Oilerian on February 06, 2014, 10:46:07 pm
Not compulsory.

Ah okay thanks for the info. Do you personally recommend it to first year student though? I'm interested in EE and Civil but I just don't want to encounter Bio or Chem again.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on February 06, 2014, 10:52:05 pm
Ah okay thanks for the info. Do you personally recommend it to first year student though? I'm interested in EE and Civil but I just don't want to encounter Bio or Chem again.
I'm an Arts student with no interest in Engineering haha, not your best source. I do have quite a few friends that have done ESD 1 that didn't like it (or even despised it). Have heard good things about ESD 2 though.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on February 06, 2014, 10:53:46 pm
Do you personally recommend it to first year student though?

No.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Oilerian on February 06, 2014, 11:00:35 pm
I'm an Arts student with no interest in Engineering haha, not your best source. I do have quite a few friends that have done ESD 1 though and didn't like it. Have heard good things about ESD 2 though.

Ah sorry I didn't read your sig. Truth be told several years ago I also wanted to enroll in art course. (Digital Art preferably)

Well I think from reading the review in student union website and some other reviews and recommendation here, I'm seriously considering dropping out ESD1. I just don't know what I should take as an alternative to fulfill the credits reqs. Maybe a computer course instead? But then every class may already be full today.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: ~T on February 06, 2014, 11:52:21 pm
Well I think from reading the review in student union website and some other reviews and recommendation here, I'm seriously considering dropping out ESD1. I just don't know what I should take as an alternative to fulfill the credits reqs. Maybe a computer course instead? But then every class may already be full today.
Do COMP10001 with me! And don't worry about classes being full, only 80% of spots have been released, and a further 20% will be available in a second release at 10am, 24th February (at least I'm pretty sure that's how it works).
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: lzxnl on February 07, 2014, 09:56:58 am
Do COMP10001 with me! And don't worry about classes being full, only 80% of spots have been released, and a further 20% will be available in a second release at 10am, 24th February (at least I'm pretty sure that's how it works).

Yep, that's how it works.
Except for me, one of my subjects doesn't have a second release. Sigh. This is why second years fight for tutorial spots.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on February 07, 2014, 10:16:11 am
Well I think from reading the review in student union website and some other reviews and recommendation here, I'm seriously considering dropping out ESD1. I just don't know what I should take as an alternative to fulfill the credits reqs. Maybe a computer course instead? But then every class may already be full today.

Many things would be more useful than taking ESD1.  COMP10001 being one of them.  I don't know what your other subjects are - I assume you're already taking Physics 1 or 2. 
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Oilerian on February 07, 2014, 10:22:03 am
Many things would be more useful than taking ESD1.  COMP10001 being one of them.  I don't know what your other subjects are - I assume you're already taking Physics 1 or 2. 

After brief deliberation, I decided to follow your advise and take COMP10001 instead. My timetable now looks better. There's just one clash with Physics practical but I hope it can be solved with 2nd subject release.  :)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Inside Out on February 19, 2014, 07:04:34 pm
i have one more spot left for semester one..should i do engineering mechanics first or engineering computation? I heard that the lecturer for comp in semester one is good so I'm leaning towards that..thoughts?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: olly_s15 on February 25, 2014, 07:34:50 pm
haven't posted for ages but sem1 2014 im doing:

NEUR30003: Principles of neuroscience
NEUR30002: Neurophys
PSYC10001: Mind, Brain & Behaviour
GENE10001: Genetics & the media

then I graduate :S
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: lzxnl on February 25, 2014, 08:07:02 pm
This semester:

CHEM20018, Chemistry: Reactions and Synthesis
MAST10008, Accelerated Mathematics 1
BLAW10001, Principles of Business Law
BIOL10004, Biology of Cells and Organisms

Next semester (hopefully; this might be overkill)

CHEM20020, Chemistry: Structure and Properties
MAST10009, Accelerated Mathematics 2
BIOL10005, Genetics and the Evolution of Life
BCMB20002, Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
CHEM20019, Practical Chemistry
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: hobbitle on February 25, 2014, 09:27:20 pm
^^ out of interest, how did you manage to just sit the Chemistry 2 exam and pass it well enough for them to let you be exempt from Level 1 Chemistry?  Do you just love Chemistry and you taught yourself content way beyond VCE Chemistry?  What's your intended major?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: abcdqd on February 25, 2014, 09:34:48 pm
Decided to go with

Sem 1:
Intro Micro
Accelerated Maths 1
Principles of Business Law
French 3

Sem 2:
Intro Macro
Accelerated Maths 2
Intro to Actuarial Studies
French 4
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: user2357 on February 25, 2014, 09:47:04 pm
To people doing AM1 in semester 1 2014, are there any empty spots in classes and what time do classes run? I am doing calculus 2 in semester 1 but want to change to AM1 and don't wan't to withdraw from calculus 2 and lose my current spot in case AM1 clashed with my other subjects.
Would really appreciate your help.
Edit: I found the timing of the lectures here: https://sis.unimelb.edu.au/cgi-bin/subjects.pl/list/13792 but I don't know how to find out whether there are any spots left.
I can only do the 11am class so if that is full I won't risk dropping calculus 2 :(
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on February 25, 2014, 10:02:24 pm
This semester:

CHEM20018, Chemistry: Reactions and Synthesis
MAST10008, Accelerated Mathematics 1
BLAW10001, Principles of Business Law
BIOL10004, Biology of Cells and Organisms

Next semester (hopefully; this might be overkill)

CHEM20020, Chemistry: Structure and Properties
MAST10009, Accelerated Mathematics 2
BIOL10005, Genetics and the Evolution of Life
BCMB20002, Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
CHEM20019, Practical Chemistry
You (probably) won't be able to overload second semester - they don't allow first years to overload. Even if you've done UMEP it's non-negotiable. Unless there's an exception for Chancellors but I haven't heard anything like that before.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Inside Out on February 25, 2014, 10:14:04 pm
You (probably) won't be able to overload second semester - they don't allow first years to overload. Even if you've done UMEP it's non-negotiable. Unless there's an exception for Chancellors but I haven't heard anything like that before.

you can overload actually if you get top marks in the first semester
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: user2357 on February 25, 2014, 10:30:24 pm
I wouldn't bother withdrawing from calc 2 tonight, since (I'm pretty sure) you'll need to manually enrol into AM 1 at the uni because you're from another state and it'll say you haven't done the prereqs. If this is the case, I'd ask the uni to check for available spots right before you enrol. Also, I don't know what 11am class you're talking about. There are only 1 set of lectures so you don't need to worry about not getting into them. As for the tutorials and pracs which run straight after each other, they are available together from 1pm-3:15pm on Monday and Thursday (you can't have a prac/tute on Monday and a prac/tute on Thursday), and MAYBE 9am-11am on Thursday (can't see whether or not it's available because it's what I'm registered in).

The thing is that I am worried it would clash with my current classes. I am doing biology at 9am, chemistry at 10am and physics advanced at 1pm so the only time I don't have classes is 11am - 1pm and after 2pm.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: lzxnl on February 25, 2014, 10:53:48 pm
^^ out of interest, how did you manage to just sit the Chemistry 2 exam and pass it well enough for them to let you be exempt from Level 1 Chemistry?  Do you just love Chemistry and you taught yourself content way beyond VCE Chemistry?  What's your intended major?

I did a 2 week summer intensive program in the summer holidays before year twelve that covered the entire first year chemistry course. I don't have an intended major atm, still keeping options open.

You (probably) won't be able to overload second semester - they don't allow first years to overload. Even if you've done UMEP it's non-negotiable. Unless there's an exception for Chancellors but I haven't heard anything like that before.

I've heard someone overloaded in second semester of first year with an average of 75% in first semester.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on February 25, 2014, 11:22:20 pm
I've heard someone overloaded in second semester of first year with an average of 75% in first semester.
Hmm this is extremely unusual - the student centres are meant to have a blanket ban (i.e. under no circumstances) on first year overloading and 75% while being a good average wouldn't be enough for them to bend that.

It's more likely that they didn't apply to overload officially and just managed to put in 5 subjects online and no one picked up on it - the IT system is so dodgy you'd be surprised at how often this happens, but it certainly isn't the norm. I've never ever heard of a first year overloading, though I could be wrong. Interesting.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: lzxnl on February 25, 2014, 11:37:52 pm
Hmm this is extremely unusual - the student centres are meant to have a blanket ban (i.e. under no circumstances) on first year overloading and 75% while being a good average wouldn't be enough for them to bend that.

It's more likely that they didn't apply to overload officially and just managed to put in 5 subjects online and no one picked up on it - the IT system is so dodgy you'd be surprised at how often this happens, but it certainly isn't the norm. I've never ever heard of a first year overloading, though I could be wrong. Interesting.

Ha. Yeah, the IT system really sucks. Who knows, maybe it will somehow let me register for classes for five subjects.
I asked someone at the science centre and they didn't exactly say "no" regardless. They still gave me a form to fill in come end of first semester.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: charmanderp on February 25, 2014, 11:43:57 pm
Ha. Yeah, the IT system really sucks. Who knows, maybe it will somehow let me register for classes for five subjects.
I asked someone at the science centre and they didn't exactly say "no" regardless. They still gave me a form to fill in come end of first semester.
Yeah I know people that have managed to do up to 6 subjects a semester. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vox nihili on February 25, 2014, 11:55:08 pm
Yeah I know people that have managed to do up to 6 subjects a semester. Ridiculous.

Hear hear
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: user2357 on February 26, 2014, 07:42:37 am
What days are those? Just post a pic of your timetable so far and it'll be easier :P

To not have any clashes, these are the hours you'll need free;
- 11am-12pm Tuesday to Friday
- 1pm-3:15pm Monday or 1pm-3:15pm Thursday or MAYBE 9am-11am Thursday (this one is probably taken, I can't check)

If you have a clash with a lecture, it won't really matter. I'm not sure if you can skip the tutorial/prac sessions. Anyway, I really think it's best if you just ask the science student centre tomorrow (make sure you get there early).

Great, thanks a lot.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: user2357 on February 26, 2014, 12:19:53 pm
I decided to do these:

Semester 1:

Semester 2:

After first year I will decide whether I want to continue in the medicine/biology/chemistry direction or the maths/physics direction.
I might switch CHEM10004 with ECON10004 and do CHEM10004 in the summer.
By the way, is there any disadvantage in doing subjects over the summer other than the obvious disadvantage of not getting a break? Are there less lectures or anything like that in the summer?
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: ChickenCh0wM1en on February 26, 2014, 01:11:52 pm
After first year I will decide whether I want to continue in the medicine/biology/chemistry direction or the maths/physics direction.
I might switch CHEM10004 with ECON10004 and do CHEM10004 in the summer.
By the way, is there any disadvantage in doing subjects over the summer other than the obvious disadvantage of not getting a break? Are there less lectures or anything like that in the summer?

Disadvantages? Just heaps of content covered in 1 day.Same amount of work put in, just a much more condensed time frame. But considering it's only 1 summer subject, it should be manageable.
Advantages? -1 subject in year 2 ;)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vox nihili on February 26, 2014, 01:27:33 pm
After first year I will decide whether I want to continue in the medicine/biology/chemistry direction or the maths/physics direction.
I might switch CHEM10004 with ECON10004 and do CHEM10004 in the summer.
By the way, is there any disadvantage in doing subjects over the summer other than the obvious disadvantage of not getting a break? Are there less lectures or anything like that in the summer?

Summer subjects are incredibly intense, just bear that in mind. You cover a hell of a lot of content in the space of a short time, so naturally, grades typically fall.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: sluu001 on February 26, 2014, 02:29:02 pm
Summer courses usually cover less content anyway, so you gain some advantage there. Derivatives for example, covered at least 2 less topics which made the course easier (by a big margin). Its a pity that it isnt offered in summer anymore (summer lecturer quit teaching the subject); as it was an easy h1 for a subject that is a nightmare during the normal semester.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: Inside Out on February 26, 2014, 06:51:34 pm
for every summer subject i've done the lecturer always states that people in summer do better than people in the normal semester. i don't see any disadvantage in that.
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: vox nihili on February 26, 2014, 07:29:21 pm
for every summer subject i've done the lecturer always states that people in summer do better than people in the normal semester. i don't see any disadvantage in that.

There's normally a higher standard of student in summer though, accounting for that (though perhaps not completely)
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: tintah on February 26, 2014, 07:44:11 pm
I did two summer subjects one 6week one 2week intensive. I found learning the content much easier and wish all subjects were as fast paced... Though in saying that doing 4 subjects double speed would definitely not end well

But overrall i feel i performed better in my summer subjects than my regular ones mainly because normal semester is a little too slow and i get bored and distracted easily because i dont find it as demanding
Title: Re: UoM Subject Choice Thread 2014
Post by: LeviLamp on February 26, 2014, 08:36:49 pm
Having done a 2-week summer intensive just now (exam tomorrow! D:) and finishing up at about 130 pages of hand-written notes, I feel a little overwhelmed. Definitely not any easier than the full-sized first-year biology units. It also feels weird taking a summer class because everyone at college is just settling in and I'm freaking out internally about plants of Victoria.